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Author Topic:   Where Did Big Bang Energy Come From?
daaaaaBEAR
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Message 4 of 84 (181539)
01-29-2005 1:31 AM
Reply to: Message 1 by Antihero
01-28-2005 3:59 AM


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daaaaaBEAR
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Message 16 of 84 (183205)
02-05-2005 2:27 AM
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01-29-2005 2:21 PM


Where DID it come from?
it came from nowhere. it doesn't matter where the energy came from just that it was there to support evo theories and actually all of evolution itself.
It seems like those supporting the Big Bang just answer the how and why questions but seem to avoid the source of their how and why theories.
So where did the energy come from? WHERE!!!!!

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daaaaaBEAR
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Message 22 of 84 (183391)
02-06-2005 1:07 AM
Reply to: Message 19 by Eta_Carinae
02-05-2005 7:25 PM


Re: I'll give you the sum total....
I'll give you the sum total....
of human knowledge on this question:
We don't know.
That seems like the general reply. That's why there HAS to be a creator, because everything needed a "something" to begin it. A random mass or whatever appearing by itself without supernatural influence is ludicrous.
....But it seems like evo's just have a problem with the word super.
The Genesis account may be faulty from an evo's perspective but from mine I see the accuracy, even the scientific accuracy, of the Bible leaving no room for error in the first book. If human knowledge can't explain how the Big Bang got its energy then either its faith or a weak assumption. If its faith then we're on the same level, just the wrong base.
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daaaaaBEAR
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Message 28 of 84 (183540)
02-06-2005 3:04 PM
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02-06-2005 12:23 PM


Re: I'll give you the sum total....
The Bible isn't a scientific document and it was never meant to be. It's a message of salvation for our fallen world.
but speaking of limitations, no one can obviously convince an evo of anyting because of limitations:
"The eye sees only that which it brings with it the power of seeing." -Cicero
If there's no way to know what happened before the Big Bang, then you can't affirm the Big Bang theory or plainly deny that there is a possibility (not a given) that there was a creator or some other supernatural force that intitiated the universe.

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daaaaaBEAR
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Message 30 of 84 (183547)
02-06-2005 3:39 PM
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02-06-2005 3:12 PM


Re: Comment
What I can affirm, however, is that Universe was once in a hot dense state and we see the evidence for this. I can affirm the Big Bang. I also affirm this is neither pro or con a Creator.
You can affirm the Big Bang but how can you affirm how the Big Bang got its energy? If it's not possible to affirm it scientifically then on by what method do you use it to support all preceding theories?

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daaaaaBEAR
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Message 35 of 84 (188292)
02-24-2005 10:22 PM
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02-24-2005 5:58 PM


Re: Matter creation from nothing...
ok.... but that example of something coming from nothing is in an established universe, not nothing. How can matter come about when there is nothing else to trigger it? And this is our universe not particles.

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