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contracycle
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Message 16 of 28 (192987)
03-21-2005 5:26 AM
Reply to: Message 9 by Scaryfish
03-20-2005 7:43 PM


telescreen.org
A deep-fried mars bar, in cross section.
quote:
(AP) Like the Loch Ness monster, the deep-fried Mars bar has often been regarded as a Scottish myth.
But a study published Friday in a medical journal confirms that Scots consume thousands of the battered bars each week, and that more than a fifth of fish and chip shops which specialize in deep-fried food sell the strange sugary delicacy
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purpledawn
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Message 17 of 28 (192996)
03-21-2005 6:48 AM
Reply to: Message 1 by Percy
03-16-2005 1:13 PM


Grassfed
My body is one that doesn't fit into government guidelines either.
I grew up on a cattle farm. All my meat was grassfed and the veggies were all home grown.
I am a physically strong person and I do have a large bone structure. I build and maintain muscle easily. I was athletic.
I didn't have a weight problem until I got into highschool and started eating out (fastfoods).
When I went into the military I barely met the maximum weight allowed. After losing the excess weight I had gained, I stil had to lose some muscle to get in just under the wire.
What amazed me was that during boot camp, I didn't lose any more weight. I was the same size when I got out (12/14). I was also weaker after bootcamp than I was before.
My husband, who is a chronic exerciser, and I struggled for many years with lowfat diets to try and maintain our weight. Didn't work. Weight just kept going up for both of us.
My jobs were always active, plus gardening, golf, dance, farming, and chasing a daughter around.
A few years ago I got fed up with our continued weight gain and we both felt miserable.
So I decided to go back to my roots. I dumped anything with preservatives in it, went back to grassfed beef, and found a farmer with pastured chickens for eggs. My husband strickly followed the Atkins diet. I wasn't as strick. I like my fruits.
Slowly the weight began to drop. I've lost 25 pounds, but not muscle. I'm 45 yrs old, 5'7", a size 12/14 (depending on where I buy the clothes) and I weigh 180#. My husband went from 240 to 200 and all that muscle he was building underneath from his chronic exercise, now shows. He looks great! He's working towards a triathlelon now.
I don't like intentional exercise. I prefer swimming, gardening, dancing, bowling, etc. Of course my doctors tell me that is not enough. Oh well.
I did find out that when my weight went down my cholesterol went up. My doctor said it was the eggs I was eating. I didn't believe it though. I did some research and found out the High Fructose Corn Syrup (HFC) and processed sugar impact cholesterol. So I gave up sugar and anything that had HFC in it (which they've stuck in so much of our food). My cholesterol dropped below the 200 mark and I still eat two eggs a day. Need to check it again to see if it has continued to go down. I use maple syrup to sweeten things.
So my weight is stable, I'm healthy (although I still don't fit into the government guidelines) and I feel great!

"The average man does not know what to do with this life, yet wants another one which lasts forever." --Anatole France

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Percy
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Message 18 of 28 (200707)
04-20-2005 2:02 PM


Eat up! Fat is good!
In yet another significant "Oops!", the government has once again discovered that its health recommendations are wrong, and in this case may even cause a rise in mortality. CNN.com today reports in Study: Obesity death risk overstated:
[text=black]The CDC (Center for Disease Control) found that people who are modestly overweight actually have a lower risk of death than those of normal weight.[/text]
So when you tell people you've been killing yourself trying to lose 10 pounds, it might be literally true!
--Percy

  
Percy
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Message 19 of 28 (200709)
04-20-2005 2:19 PM


Food Pyramid Dramatically Revised
In a candid admission that "one size does not fit all," the United States Department of Agriculture today announced a new Food Pyramid: Johanns reveals USDA's steps to a healthier you. Of course, accuracy and simplicity are opposites, and the CNN headline more accurately says Food pyramid becomes 12 pyramids. This article is also where most of the honesty resides, e.g.:
[text=black]"Part of the problem previously was that we had this one symbol, this one pyramid, and it was one size fits all," Hentges told agriculture reporters last week. "Or it was a misinterpretation. In the case of grain servings, it said six to 11 servings. Well, if you're supposed to be eating 1,600 calories, you never did get to choose these 11 servings of grain.
"Who knows what a serving is?" Hentges added. "It's whatever I put on my plate. The servings differ for you than for your spouse, maybe."
[/text]
Well, DUH!!! And now perhaps the FDA can get to work on getting sensible dosage recommendations on non-prescription medicine so that they're not the same whether you're a 100 pound female or a 250 pound male.
Details of the new food pyramid can be found at MyPyramid.gov.
--Percy

  
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Message 20 of 28 (200714)
04-20-2005 3:28 PM
Reply to: Message 16 by contracycle
03-21-2005 5:26 AM


A deep-fried mars bar, in cross section.
God it looks like something I saw them take out of a guy last night on ER.

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Dan Carroll
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Message 21 of 28 (200715)
04-20-2005 3:37 PM
Reply to: Message 9 by Scaryfish
03-20-2005 7:43 PM


It pales before the fury of the hamdog.

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macaroniandcheese 
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Message 22 of 28 (200806)
04-20-2005 10:37 PM
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03-16-2005 1:13 PM


exercise doesn't mean competitive sports. exercise means getting off of one's couch and walking all the way to the refrigerator instead of yelling at your resident broad to get another beer for you.
seriously though. excercise means walking or swimming or something for an hour or so. this is not complicated or difficult and will hardly cause complications. swimming for an hour. for me this means a mile. swimming is low impact and low risk (unless you're an idiot). competitive sports are intended to push one to his limits. obviously you surpassed yours. and btw. as far as i remember, competitive athletes tend to exercise far more than an hour every day.
oh yes. and government figures? those are based on cross country runners. hardly a useful group. they eat way too much grain and are way too skinny because they have to carry themselves at high speeds for very long periods of time. thus they build long, lean, light muscles. why did they pick them? they look almost healthy. government people can't even pick out what to teach in schools to prevent teenagers from becoming parents, why should you trust them to tell you how much you should weigh?
i don't fit my body size standards. one, because i have a fat middle i should stop being lazy and get rid of. two, because i have really muscular legs from dance and track. oh yes. and i have really big boobs. the last bit alone probably keeps me at my 15lbs over. but the rest needs to go too.
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macaroniandcheese 
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Message 23 of 28 (200811)
04-20-2005 10:46 PM
Reply to: Message 12 by Rand Al'Thor
03-21-2005 4:12 AM


yep. bastards like you are who they planned that food pyramid on. i bet you go to olive garden for that never ending pasta bowl. my brother (6'1" and maybe 130 in hs) could put away about 15 bowls the night before a meet.

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macaroniandcheese 
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Message 24 of 28 (200812)
04-20-2005 10:48 PM
Reply to: Message 13 by Silent H
03-21-2005 5:08 AM


exercise doesn't mean "work out" where do you people get this crap?

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Dan Carroll
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Message 25 of 28 (200910)
04-21-2005 9:40 AM
Reply to: Message 22 by macaroniandcheese
04-20-2005 10:37 PM


i don't fit my body size standards. one, because i have a fat middle i should stop being lazy and get rid of. two, because i have really muscular legs from dance and track. oh yes. and i have really big boobs.
My girlfriend has self-image problems with all these things too. Which always leaves me scratching my head and wondering, "sexy round tum... legs that could probably snap me in two... big boobs... I fail to see the problem, here."

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Dr Jack
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Message 26 of 28 (200918)
04-21-2005 10:37 AM
Reply to: Message 1 by Percy
03-16-2005 1:13 PM


Physical "activity" not aerobic exercise: this includes going for walks and doing the housework.

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Message 27 of 28 (200962)
04-21-2005 4:02 PM



  
EZscience
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Message 28 of 28 (208244)
05-14-2005 10:21 PM
Reply to: Message 15 by Silent H
03-21-2005 5:15 AM


Yes. Here in America it is all car culture.
I have always loved to cycle, but it has never been an easy thing to do in the US.
But everything you say about the work culture is on the nose.
I am just as guilty myself - the sytem makes you never feel as if you are never working hard enough - until the point you realize that your own quality of life *today* is seriously deteriorating and you ask yourself the question: "Why was I working so hard again?"...
Edit:
We should all try and find a form of exercise we enjoy.
Maybe a little resistance some days, and a little cardio others.
Lots of different ways to achieve that, but you have to (1) allocate the time almost religiously ( at first) and (2) find activities you enjoy or you won't do them.
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