Is Evolutionist Disparagement of Creationism Justified?

Most definitely! I was pretty sure you were speaking tonque in cheek, but every now and then a person can surprise you by zigging left when you thought they would zig right

It was not the Bible but the pagan Aristotle he had offended.**{Edit for clarity -- Aristotle was the darling of the Roman Church and it was his pantheistic views of the universe with which Galileo's observations clashed. There is nothing in the Bible that opposes Galileo's scientific conclusions.This message has been edited by Faith, 03-21-2005 10:24 PM

Sorry, duplicate post.This message has been edited by Faith, 03-21-2005 10:25 PM

Something you might learn a little about: How Christianity Changed The World:
Formerly Titled Under The Influence
by Alvin J. Schmidt Link shortened. What if Jesus Had Never Been Born? D. James Kennedy and Jerry Newcombe Link ShortenedEdited by AdminJar to correct long links. Use peek mode to learn how to do it for the future.This message has been edited by AdminJar, 03-21-2005 10:27 PM

Thank you Buz. I'm a debate junky, which keeps me going in spite of myself, but as far as expecting any constructive result from sticking around here I don't see it.

Faith, I wrote long, serious rebuttal to this paragraph. Then deleted it and wrote a scathing sarcastic piece. Then I looked at it and said, 'it's really not worth it...'.Suffice it to say that there is nothing here to be taken seriously. I predict that your debate will be a dismal failure and will accomplish nothing. You consistently fail to address a single response to your posts and tediously repeat the same arguments previously refuted.

YES! Great post, Sylas, and especially the above two paragraphs. At least they say a lot about what has frustrated me here for a long time. Thanks!

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The immeasurable present is forever consuming the eternal future and extending the infinite past. buzsaw

As long as you acknowledge the "applies both ways" clause, I have no problem with this. By the way, both sides are frustrated; not just yours. You have to accept some of the responsibility, as well, or it will never work.

Who developed geometry?

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Aslan is not a Tame Lion

The problem though is that we need to assemble a coalition of intelligent design (ID) creationists who have some gumption, if you will and the knowledge and intelligence as you have shown here so as to lend support to one another when it is needed. A few have come on, gotten irritated or discouraged and left, but it takes more than two or three. Our counterparts have sufficient numbers of active members to cover the majority of the threads, so as when one of their's needs help it's usually there. We are so scanty few that it's all we can do to keep up on a thread or two with a number of counterparts to keep up with. The other side doesn't have that problem. I think of the Great Debate thead's thread following it where nearly my entire posting time was consumed in keeping up with one after another of my opponents and this went the duration of 300 plus posts with practically no support. Then in the end after all that and I got a warning, the stuff hit the fan and I about left until we got it hasseled out in another long drawn out thread. I was sorry to see Mike the Whiz leave, since he did come on and lend support (may God bless'm) quite often. Hopefully he'll be back. Anyhow, I hope you stay and see if we can muster up a team of bonafide ID creos so as to show others that when they come in here there's folks here who really appreciate and support their input. I'm not a bonafide YEC as I have a different take on the first four days of Gen one, but at least I'm ID all the way and a YEC when it comes to living creatures. So we do have much in common to work together with. I'll be praying for you as to your decision as I know you need to spend your time where God wants you most. May God bless you and yours richly, regardless of your decision. One thing for sure, madear, we're not preaching to the choir here. I've never posted in a friendly board of creos where the counterparts are the minority. I like to be up on the line where the action is. I Joined Tweb and posted one post about post trib rapture so far. Last I looked all I got in response was a smiley face from Dede. That's fine though as it looks like she's got her work cut out there.

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The immeasurable present is forever consuming the eternal future and extending the infinite past. buzsaw

You're right, Edge, but it's the minority viewpoint, and particualarly ID folks that's the more likely to get the unsavory ridicule and who are usually on the defensive.

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The immeasurable present is forever consuming the eternal future and extending the infinite past. buzsaw

Edge, Sylas can correct me if mistaken, but imo, this's the very kind of demeaning stuff that Sylas was aluding to. Your statement here is arrogant, meanspirited, false and counterproductive to keeping the peace here in town among counterpart posters. Imo, you'd have done better with the post you said you scrapped, in which you apparently had some refutations to what Faith posted.

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The immeasurable present is forever consuming the eternal future and extending the infinite past. buzsaw

Thanks again.
Yes, some reinforcements would help a lot. (Some YECs too though, not just IDs plz).
Yes I pray about it.

Do you just enjoy punching that straw man? If so I can leave you to it. Nobody said Christianity invented everything, but it is not true that all religions and groups have contributed equally to the benefits of Western civilization, or even a minuscule percentage. The conspicuous achievements of the West were brought about through specifically Biblical Christian thinking. Yeah there's a ton of evidence. Some of it in the books I referenced.

They're invariably as dumb as a bag of hammers.