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macaroniandcheese 
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Message 181 of 305 (194142)
03-24-2005 5:13 PM
Reply to: Message 180 by contracycle
03-24-2005 9:26 AM


1. his claim is the current academic attitude. you are the one challenging the norm; you must provide evidence.
2. he provided evidence for his claim, you did not for yours nor respond to his in any way but putting your fingers in your ears. the topic is wasted. let it go.

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Message 182 of 305 (197870)
04-09-2005 6:43 AM


Is it ok for me to ask for this thread to be reopened?
In the last message of that thread, AM said "And I certainly hope that this is the last homosexuality and the Bible topic you ever start - Give it a rest." I think it is fair that I won't start another thread like this. However, I don't think it is unreasonable to ask for an old one to be reopened.
The reason I'm asking is because Faith made a claim in another thread that besides the leviticus verse (which we all know very well), there are also many other direct references from the bible that condemns homosexuality. I think it is fair for us to allow her to present her case.
By the way, if you really don't want to reopen this one, it's ok.

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Message 183 of 305 (198141)
04-10-2005 8:29 PM
Reply to: Message 180 by contracycle
03-24-2005 9:26 AM


Suggest you propose a new thread that will give the topic a fresh start that will hopefully lead to a more productive outcome.

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Message 184 of 305 (198231)
04-11-2005 6:01 AM
Reply to: Message 181 by macaroniandcheese
03-24-2005 5:13 PM


quote:
1. his claim is the current academic attitude. you are the one challenging the norm; you must provide evidence.
Erm, as I have pointed out, his claim is OPPOSED by the well established academic norm that these are heroic socities. Therefore *I* have asked *HIM* to show HIS sources, which he has not done. In fact, virtually my entire participation in the htread has been aimed at pointing out that this claim is contrary to the established position, and asking him to demonstrate support for his unusual position.
Please re-open the thread so that he CAN do so.
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Message 185 of 305 (198232)
04-11-2005 6:04 AM
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04-10-2005 8:29 PM


quote:
Suggest you propose a new thread that will give the topic a fresh start that will hopefully lead to a more productive outcome.
A topic called "arachnophilia was wrong and heres why" seems unnecessarily specific.

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mike the wiz
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Message 186 of 305 (198390)
04-11-2005 8:10 PM


Admin you will obey my command!
Open the "an argument from design" thread, there was no reason to shut it apart from shutting me up. I noticed you let Pink Sassquatch get his full rant in and then closed it. Who do you think you're dealing with here?

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Message 187 of 305 (198392)
04-11-2005 8:26 PM
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04-11-2005 8:10 PM


Re: Admin you will obey my command!
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Who do you think you're dealing with here?
Obviously someone who needs their meds.
AdminMoose had the last post, with a subtitle of "Topic closed pending re-evaluation." I would think a simple reminder would have gone a lot further towards your goal than this.

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Message 188 of 305 (198393)
04-11-2005 8:26 PM
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04-11-2005 8:10 PM


Re: Admin you will obey my command!
Couldn't find topic.
If you're going to be commanding, I suggest you have "AdminMike" reopen it.
Who do you think you're dealing with here?
My unwillingness to use profanity prevents me from answering that question.
Adminnemooseus

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Message 189 of 305 (198394)
04-11-2005 8:31 PM


Irrefutable mike strikes
I guess I'm un-refuted in that thread then, as I have all the answers in my mind, but can't share 'em.

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Message 190 of 305 (198397)
04-11-2005 8:45 PM
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04-11-2005 8:31 PM


Re: Irrefutable mike strikes
I guess,
you have the same prob I have hevc.(r)
Pink&you at mess14 wrote"Why? Speciation events have been documented, that is, instances where one species becomes two. If abiogenesis creates one species there is no reason that one species couldn't have speciated into numerous species. If any one of those species begins engulfing one of the other species, a food chain is formed.
I mean for Pete's sake the food chain is intricate. Each critter is designed for a place, and when one critter dies out, it's obvious that God designs another organism to replace it.
You are making some kind of assumption that in order for the food chain to exist as it is now, it must have been originally set up that way - this is simply not the case.
"
I was thinking of cheerleading when you first got it opened but I have now found a possible error in Kant due to lack of Croizat knowledge that justifies constructive comments in that thread in the coffee house. I guess either I needed to not have had two glasses of wine tonight or else you simply needed to ask nicely, either way, I like your post even without the changes. I can now see baramins as producing a category BEYOND natural selection but I am not quite ready to get into all of it. Your post on design or undesign opens a lot of the issues

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Message 191 of 305 (198404)
04-11-2005 9:14 PM
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04-11-2005 8:45 PM


Re: Irrefutable mike strikes
Thanks Brad. I'm glad of your interest, and it's good to hear from you.
Pink S writes:
You are making some kind of assumption that in order for the food chain to exist as it is now, it must have been originally set up that way - this is simply not the case.
That's a big strawman. As said the food chain could adapt that by one specie dying off, God would replace the animal into the available space, so the food chain would evolve but not the organisms. Call it equivocating a baramin,
And he is assuming that because he sees speciation today, they've always been speciating even from abiogenesis, while also assuming Abiogenesis is true.
If the first species was able to happen, then why would it need to speciate? Why would it adapt beyond it's baramin category? Ofcourse - none do observably. From niche to niche or from nil to nil I think I will choose a designer. The mind is there anyway! Food chains can't just happen, one part (species) of the sytem will always need his counterpart. Do u agrre/disagree Brad?

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Message 192 of 305 (198408)
04-11-2005 9:32 PM
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04-11-2005 9:14 PM


Irrefutable mike strikes OUT again
Mike, this is not a debating thread.

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Message 193 of 305 (198410)
04-11-2005 9:34 PM
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04-11-2005 9:14 PM


?
should only the person requesting a reopening be posting in this thread? is post 190 too much here too??
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Message 194 of 305 (198411)
04-11-2005 9:37 PM
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04-11-2005 9:34 PM


Brad
This is not a debating thread. Drop it.

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Message 195 of 305 (198492)
04-12-2005 7:04 AM
Reply to: Message 184 by contracycle
04-11-2005 6:01 AM


quote:
Erm, as I have pointed out, his claim is OPPOSED by the well established academic norm that these are heroic socities. Therefore *I* have asked *HIM* to show HIS sources, which he has not done. In fact, virtually my entire participation in the htread has been aimed at pointing out that this claim is contrary to the established position, and asking him to demonstrate support for his unusual position.
Please re-open the thread so that he CAN do so.
Bump. Please re-open the thread.

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