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Author Topic:   Did They Write About Jesus in the Law, the Prophets, and the Psalms?
doctrbill
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Message 301 of 305 (204440)
05-02-2005 9:12 PM
Reply to: Message 289 by arachnophilia
05-02-2005 1:19 PM


Finale ... on virgin's flap.
Arachnophilia writes:
except the septuagint, which is actually older.
Indeed.
But the most accurate versions are the "original authographs."
Excerpts from: Chicago Statement on Biblical Inerrancy
Article IX.
"... the whole of Scripture and all its parts, down to the very words of the original, were given by divine inspiration."
Article X.
"... inspiration, strictly speaking, applies only to the autographic text of Scripture, which in the providence of God can be ascertained from available manuscripts with great accuracy. We further affirm that copies and translations of Scripture are the Word of God to the extent that they faithfully represent the original."
Good thing there are no originals or these guys would have some real problems!

Theology is the science of Dominion.
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doctrbill
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From: Eugene, Oregon, USA
Joined: 01-08-2001


Message 302 of 305 (204446)
05-02-2005 9:37 PM
Reply to: Message 291 by Faith
05-02-2005 3:24 PM


Finale ... on the virgin's flap.
Most translations are done pretty much the way the King James was done. Translation by individuals is rare. Large Churches (denominations) and National Bible Societies have more money to put into these projects. It does take a lot of time and money to do it. Time, Money and Manpower (scholar-power). That is why the Church of England was able to get the KJV out so quickly (less than a decade if memory serves). The King (James) had to approve the project, of course, for it was illegal (severe penalty) for anyone to translate or publish a Bible without government sanction.
You are new to this. I like your energy, your daring, your dogged determination, and your spelling and punctuation! Really. They are marvelous. There is never any doubt what you are trying to say, even though I don't always like what you are saying.
Don't give up studying these things. I have learned a thing or two from you. Don't let that go to your head. But know that I consider you a valuable opponent, rascal though you may be, and oft times a pill.
I suspected that were a KJV Onlyist. Thanks for clearing that up.
I am curious. Do you accept the Apocrypha as a valid inclusion in the sacred canon? I am hoping that you do actually. That would be the Purely Onlyistic thing to do.
db

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Faith 
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Message 303 of 305 (204488)
05-02-2005 10:44 PM
Reply to: Message 302 by doctrbill
05-02-2005 9:37 PM


Re: Finale ... on the virgin's flap.
I suspected that were a KJV Onlyist. Thanks for clearing that up.
Not really. Today's KJV is just as corrupted by the newer translational follies as the other translations. So far MOST of the corruptions have remained in the footnotes but not all. What is needed is a completely new translation done under the auspices of Church authorities based on the OLD Greek manuscripts rather than the new ones that underlie the newer translations. This is the best thinking on the subject in my opinion:
An orienting column on the subject:
Welcome credenda.org - Hostmonster.com
A debate between the editor and a defender of the modern translations:
Welcome credenda.org - Hostmonster.com
I am curious. Do you accept the Apocrypha as a valid inclusion in the sacred canon? I am hoping that you do actually. That would be the Purely Onlyistic thing to do.
No. I consider them interesting but not inspired and after reading through them once years ago I haven't gone back to them. Maccabees contains useful history though.

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doctrbill
Member (Idle past 2764 days)
Posts: 1174
From: Eugene, Oregon, USA
Joined: 01-08-2001


Message 304 of 305 (204492)
05-02-2005 10:48 PM
Reply to: Message 303 by Faith
05-02-2005 10:44 PM


Re: Finale ... on the virgin's flap.
Thank you for the prompt reply.
I expect to look at your links sometime in the next 24.
G'night.
db

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Message 305 of 305 (204494)
05-02-2005 10:52 PM


Past witching time
Closing this puppy.
If anyone wishes to go forward, please start a narrow, defined PNT.

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