If you should respond arach, I think these might be good starting points...
- the scope: the nature of evil and its ultimate origin -- and how God employs evil to bring about good.
- the format: unlimited number of responses until we either agree or agree to disagree.
- the time frame: maximum time between post and response -- one week.
- no parallel discussions of the subject to go on at the same time (such as in coffee house).
Note: The main bulk of the debate sould be concentrated within the framework of the Great Debate thread. If others choose to discuss this same topic within their own spin-off threads, that's their choice to do so. I won't be responding to parallel discussions of the subject anywhere but in the Great Debate thread.
Please note: I noticed your own response to my invitation in your proposed topic here...
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EvC Forum: original sin, the source of evil, and serpents in genesis
In this thread, I noted the following:
Mr. Ex Nihilo writes:
Care to debate these ideas in a formal debating area?
arachnophilia writes:
no, but a pnt will do just fine. others, such as ringo and riverat would probably like to continue to debate as well, and a great debate will exclude them.
In response to this, I feel that Ringo316 and riVeRraT are doing quite an adequate job debating thier own positions amongst themselves. I also note that neither of them seem to have yet expressed any desire to continue with their personal debate.
For example, riVeRraT said the following after a lengthy discussion with Ringo316:
riVeRat writes:
Well, what do you know, we agree on something.
In addition to this, when I asked Ringo316 about some of his ideas, he said the following:
Ringo316 writes:
By the way, this little smilie -
- means "don't take this toooo seriously".
or again...
Ringo316 writes:
The smilies might have been a clue that I don't take the discussion as a matter of life or death.
So, apparently, Ringo316 isn't very interested in conducting an in-depth analysis of this subject anyway. It seems to me more of a novel curiousity to him than anything in-depth worth exploring further.
Brian seems to share a similar opinion when he said the following:
Brian writes:
When have I said that I looking for answers within scriptures, apart from Genesis through 2 Kings, and even then it has only been in an historical context.
I honestly do not see any point to the New Testament, it doesn't really contribute anything worthwhile at all to society.
So, again, apparently Brian doesn't really see any value to the concept of Christianity -- or even a detailed analysis of where evil comes from in the first place (except in a historical sense).
Brian had mentioned the following to me:
Brian writes:
One of the possible outcomes of promoting your faith on a public forum is that you may have to defend that faith. You can choose not to and run the risk of others thinking that you bailed because the questions are too difficult, but that is up to you.
I am actually doing the
opposite of this by inviting you to debate this idea further. I've also selected
you because you apparently take some of these concepts seriously enough to have invested some time in deeply analyzing them.
Again, if you decline, I
won't level the same innuendo that Brian made to me above --
that you are possibly running away from a good debate because you might be afraid to defend your ideas. I realize that you are teaching art over the summer, so you do not have as much time available as some of us do. I also realize that people have lives outside the EvC forum. Where I am a parent of a handicapped child, I realize that one cannot spend their time reputing every person who challenges my thoughts -- especially those that are simply trolling anyway.
However, having said this, I am still honestly interested in your thoughts -- and I would like to
formally debate them here at EvC as the Spirit allows.
Again, I hope you reconsider.
You can let me know here when you have a chance...
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EvC Forum: Invitation to the Great Debate: for arachnophilia
Edit: spelling.
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