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Author Topic:   Which came first: the young earth, or the inerrant scripture?
hoaryhead 
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Message 136 of 161 (238294)
08-29-2005 12:48 PM
Reply to: Message 134 by nwr
08-29-2005 11:25 AM


Re: Mistaken Identity
nwr
Nuggin
I am a newcomer to computers and the Internet.
Please explain the formatting to me.
What does "nwr" mean in the left margin?
What does "Nuggin" mean at the bottom?
Thank you.
hoaryhead

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hoaryhead 
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Message 137 of 161 (238295)
08-29-2005 1:13 PM
Reply to: Message 129 by Brian
08-29-2005 10:47 AM


Studying Grammar; Learning to Read
Hello, Brian:
1) "... the author (sg.) and their (pl.) opinion."
One man cannot be both singular and plural.
This is nonsense.
2) No degree as a grammarian. But I have read many Ph.Ds that did not use proper grammar. So then, a college degree does not indicate anything except willing submission to brainwashing of some sort.
My accomplishments, assisted by the Spirit of God, are to comprehend written messages that no one else that I have encountered, in 20 years of research, has been able to comprehend.
A short list is:
The 7 Spirits of God - Isa 11.1-4; Eph 4.4-6; Rev 5.12; Rev 7.12.
3 Ages of Man - 2Pet 3.6, 3.7-10, 3.13.
3 General Resurrections - 1cor 15.22-24.
3 Days in the Tomb - Mt 12.40.
6 Particular Resurrections - Enoch, Elijah, the Lamb of God, Old Heavens, First Resurrection, New Heavens.
3) "A theologian should always double check his sources."
Now, this proves that your previous statement was wrong.
"Theologian" and "his" are both singular.
Previously you wrote, "author and their opinions."
This is a terrible mistake.
You have really touched on one of the critical points of Bible translation and interpretation.
The singular should be considered separate from the plural.
Keep plugging.
hoaryhead

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hoaryhead 
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Message 144 of 161 (238413)
08-29-2005 9:12 PM
Reply to: Message 140 by RAZD
08-29-2005 6:53 PM


Re: RAZD Has Broad Shoulders
Dear RAZD:
You are too uneducated to talk to.
Little children know more truth than you do.
Consider these extremely dumb remarks;
1) "oldest copy is 280 BC."
Quote: "oldest copy of Hebrew INTO GREEK."
2) Jewish history, quoted from Josephus -- not the Scriptures -- described Alexander & Daniel's prophecy; which was recorded, "first year of Belshazzar"; and dated - 556 BC; from Babylonian artifacts.
You are too uneducated to communicate with anyone, and so, with no bitter feelings, I will refuse to respond to you again.
hoaryhead

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hoaryhead 
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Message 147 of 161 (238525)
08-30-2005 7:54 AM
Reply to: Message 145 by AdminNosy
08-29-2005 9:44 PM


Re: Manners
Administrator:
Your forum is a wonderful service to the public.
Some good is being accomplished.
However, you have too many troublemakers who do not discuss the topics but -- against your rules -- promote their own creed
(such as Atheism with RAZD) -- by constantly misquoting posts of others and then argue about the "straw man" of their own making.
In his replies to me, RAZD has misquoted me every single time.
I thought that I stated the case very moderately and politely.
I never misquoted RAZD's posts.
Respectfully,
hoaryhead

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hoaryhead 
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Message 150 of 161 (238633)
08-30-2005 3:25 PM
Reply to: Message 148 by Brian
08-30-2005 8:42 AM


Which Language Is Legal?
To the Forum:
We are presently flooded with propaganda for "unisex language" in translating the Bible; or, as Brian has labeled it, "inclusive language."
Although these people hate the fact, English is still the legal language in the United States of America.
So then, the plural word "their" in the English language; is insisted to be singular by Brian in his "unisex language."
The obvious goal of "unisex language"; determined by an honest appraisal of the writings supporting it; is to deny "The Father and The Son"; and to deny "The Male Head and the Female Body."
These are Signs of the Times.
So then, Brian and I, speaking opposing languages, are unable to communicate with each other.
But, my language is legal.
hoaryhead

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hoaryhead 
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Message 151 of 161 (238635)
08-30-2005 3:44 PM
Reply to: Message 149 by AdminJar
08-30-2005 11:01 AM


Answer to Administrator on Manners
With Respect:
1) I quoted Robert Milligan, who had quoted Josephus, that "the Septuagint, about 280 BC, was the earliest record of the Hebrew Scriptures IN GREEK."
RAZD replied, "So the earliest record was 280 BC."
2) I quoted from Jewish history by Josephus, and not from the Scriptures, that Alexander the Great was read the prophecy in Daniel about himself, in 332 BC.
RAZD replied this could not happened because of his god-like decree that the Bible could not be before 280 BC.
All of RAZD's replies were of this nature; misquoting my post, and then arguing against the "man of straw" of his own making.
3) RAZD made a god-like decree that the Bible was not before the Council of Nicea, in AD 325.
But this council had nothing to do with the writing of any Scripture.
No one can have an intelligent conversation with a man who makes up his owm fallacies as he goes along.
RAZD never addressed the topic of the forum, "Young Earth" in any of his posts to me. All that he discussed, besides his kind instructions about the format of the forum, for which I give him thanks, was Atheism.
Respectfully submitted,
hoaryhead

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hoaryhead 
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Message 155 of 161 (238735)
08-30-2005 11:37 PM
Reply to: Message 154 by ramoss
08-30-2005 8:40 PM


Contents of the Septuagint
Ramoss:
"The Septuagint only contained the five books of the law."
1) I possess a reproduction of the Septuagint.
2) It contains ALL of the Christian Old Testament.
3) It also contains several books of the apocrypha.
What possessed you to make that unfounded statement?
Let us begin (for a change) to debate the facts.
hoaryhead

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hoaryhead 
Inactive Member


Message 158 of 161 (238920)
08-31-2005 9:26 AM
Reply to: Message 152 by nwr
08-30-2005 3:52 PM


Re: Which Language Is Legal?
1) "Who is we? I haven't been flooded with propaganda."
By "we" the US population was being referred to.
A) The Inclusive Language Debate, D. A. Carson.
B)
Distort Scripture, The Challenge of Bible Translation and Inclusive Language, Mark L. Strauss.
C) The Gender-Neutral Bible Controversy, Vern S. Paythess,
Wayne A. Grudem.
By the pronoun, "we" I meant the people without their heads buried in the sand.
2) "Can you cite the particular law that establishes this?"
["This," meaning a legal language.]
The United States Constitution, written in English, and entirely free of "inclusive language" -- which was only begun in the 1980s.
hoaryhead

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