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Author Topic:   Increase in Natural Disasters? Prophesied?
NosyNed
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Message 16 of 157 (256616)
11-03-2005 9:18 PM
Reply to: Message 14 by Buzsaw
11-03-2005 8:50 PM


Increasing compared to...
So far as I am aware the thread was not a comparison. It was about whether they are increasing as per Biblical prophecies in the latter days.
I know Jar covered this already. I want to emphasize the significance of this. Something must be compared to some baseline to say if there is an increase or not. It is problems at this level, Buzz, that have reduced your credibility to somewhere just under zero. This is very, very simple; not rocket science.

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NosyNed
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Message 33 of 157 (256981)
11-04-2005 11:33 PM
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11-04-2005 1:50 PM


Determining if something is increasing
On a technical point, buzsaw seems to be correct. In mathematics we can say that f is increasing over time if df/dt is positive - apologies for introducing calculus.
That's fine ...
No, actually it is not fine. When the occurance of events is highly variable with some possible cyclical variations thrown in then to simply find a positive slope with time is not adequate.
It is necessary to sort out the variation and any cyclical patterns and from that determine if there is a real positive signel left. It requires a fair amount of mathematical care. I've not done anything with something as complex as weather patterns and earthquakes but the very simple stuff I have touched taught me that. I couldn't do it again today (forgot a lot ).

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Message 38 of 157 (257020)
11-05-2005 8:15 AM
Reply to: Message 37 by Modulous
11-05-2005 7:49 AM


Eyeballing it
Eyeballing that kind of noisy plot really doesn't cut it but I'll stick my neck out and say that there is a hint of something starting at about 1990. Hardly a match to Buzz's "prophesy".

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Message 98 of 157 (258811)
11-11-2005 10:37 AM
Reply to: Message 97 by PaulK
11-11-2005 2:04 AM


How old is Pat?
Too bad we closed the Pat Robertson thread.
Is there an increase in these kind of crazy pronouncements by Pat Robertson? He looks like the ravings of someone sufffering from a dementia.

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