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Christian7
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Message 1 of 110 (263851)
11-28-2005 5:17 PM


Read this whole thing first, then decide to promote or not:
Hello, I am an alien, and I have come to earth recently after seeing a horrendus explosion destroy half the human race. I have come with archeologist who have dug up some interesting objects.
What we found was mind boggling.
We picked up complicated, and structured objects made of silicon that tramsit electricity to perform calculations. It was unbelievable. But I knew that humans couldn't have created it, even though it seemed pretty convincing.
Just because it looked like an intellegent design didn't mean it was. So I had a theory, this computer evolved from simple forms. In order to proove my theory I had to find these simpler forms.
As we dug deeper and deeper we did indeed find simpler computers. Unbelievable!!! My theory had so much evidence now!!! We found a Comadore 64 preceeding long before the Gate way. We knew that the commadore much have progressed over trillions of years of Natural Selection into a Gateway! I mean DUH!!!
We found knifes, and simpler knifes and simpler knifes. Some were made of rock. It was obvious that evolution took place. At first I was foolish enough to believe that the computer was intellegently designed, but after much research we have concluded that since the humans are too stupid to have created the computer and since we have overwelming evidence of its evolution that it has indeed evolved from the calculator, which evolved from an even simpler device.
OMG LIKE EVOLUTION IS SO TRUE!!!!!!!

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Christian7
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Message 3 of 110 (263925)
11-28-2005 8:11 PM
Reply to: Message 2 by AdminNWR
11-28-2005 5:34 PM


Re: What position will you be defending?
Yes I will be defending intellegent design.
Let them argue as they will.

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Message 6 of 110 (263935)
11-28-2005 8:46 PM
Reply to: Message 5 by crashfrog
11-28-2005 8:31 PM


Your just jelous cuz I won that other argument.

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Message 7 of 110 (263937)
11-28-2005 8:49 PM
Reply to: Message 5 by crashfrog
11-28-2005 8:31 PM


Just as things made of sillicon do not link up and form next generation composites, protiens do not have this ability.
The first cell must already exist before it can replicate.

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Christian7
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Message 19 of 110 (264249)
11-29-2005 6:10 PM
Reply to: Message 9 by crashfrog
11-28-2005 9:10 PM


Says you. The truth, of course, is exactly the opposite. Not only do proteins self-assemble in the cell, classes of proteins exist that assemble copies of themselves from other protein sequences.
Wrong. Organelles do not create themselves.
It seems you don't know what DNA or RNA is.
I will ingnore the rest of your post since it need not be debated, it is known to be false just as evolution IS false.
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Christian7
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Message 20 of 110 (264254)
11-29-2005 6:15 PM
Reply to: Message 8 by Omnivorous
11-28-2005 9:06 PM


The first replicator need not be a cell.
You've lost twice in 8 posts.
I haven't lost because I did not set up the argument yet.

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Christian7
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Message 43 of 110 (264577)
11-30-2005 8:44 PM
Reply to: Message 23 by crashfrog
11-29-2005 7:24 PM


I believe it was proteins we were talking about.
Try to stay on-topic, ok?
Oh I'm sorry, I thought organelles were an assembly of protiens. I guess I was wrong.
By talking about protiens assembling, I was actually refering to the assembly of organells.
You are a bafoon and are of no intellectual challenge to me. The only problem I have it putting my arguments into words so that your mind can understand them as I understand them.

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Christian7
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Message 44 of 110 (264579)
11-30-2005 8:47 PM
Reply to: Message 42 by jar
11-30-2005 4:07 PM


Re: Lam and Crash acting children
Gotta be careful there. Many of us see no signs of ID in the examples presented so far by the ID movement. And we certainly don't see ID at the critter level unless you consider ID as Incompetent Design.
The incompletness of Critters are to Humans as Windows 3.1 is to Windows XP.
Windows 3.1 is incomplete, yet there is no dought it was designed.
Btw, notice the differences in Windows and Machintosh. All Windows software can easilly be said to have come from previous revised versions.
Since we have one creator and not two, all biological systems exibit similar characteristics.
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Christian7
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Message 46 of 110 (264582)
11-30-2005 8:57 PM
Reply to: Message 45 by jar
11-30-2005 8:51 PM


Re: Lam and Crash acting children
I would like to see you achieve what the creator had by creating the simplest cell without design but by setting conditions. If you succeed you may call the creator incompetent in that, if you fail, then you have no such right.
Even if the creator is incompetent, human kind is hellishly inferior.

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Christian7
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Message 52 of 110 (264590)
11-30-2005 9:40 PM
Reply to: Message 48 by jar
11-30-2005 9:06 PM


Re: Lam and Crash acting children
Yes as christians.

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Christian7
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Message 53 of 110 (264593)
11-30-2005 9:42 PM
Reply to: Message 50 by AdminSchraf
11-30-2005 9:21 PM


I'm sorry. Please forgive me.

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Christian7
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Message 55 of 110 (264600)
11-30-2005 9:58 PM
Reply to: Message 54 by jar
11-30-2005 9:56 PM


Re: looking at Intellegent Design
Yes, and I think I know where you are going with this, but go on.

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Christian7
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Message 70 of 110 (264823)
12-01-2005 5:14 PM
Reply to: Message 61 by Ooook!
12-01-2005 6:50 AM


My anology was intended to be poor.
but they don't need the intervention of a designer to replicate
I never said that they did.
Stone knifes, aeroplanes, computers or blocks of flats don't have this capability: they can't evolve! The alien is invoking an untestable magical event - ring any bells?
Yep evolution.
an imperfect self replication system combined with natural selection
Natural selection alone is not a mechanism by whitch an animal can obtain eyes over time.
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Christian7
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Message 71 of 110 (264825)
12-01-2005 5:16 PM
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12-01-2005 11:16 AM


lol.

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Christian7
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Message 72 of 110 (264829)
12-01-2005 5:22 PM
Reply to: Message 64 by ramoss
12-01-2005 10:47 AM


Re: Lam and Crash acting children
Well, it doesn't matter of ID is assumed to be wrong or right. ID does not make any predictions. It does not have any explanitory powers. It can not be tested.
What? Are you serious? You say that we don't know much about evolution but you basically know nothing about Intellegent Design.
This is all like freeken politics. The two theory peoples are just mudslinging each other.
There are predictions made by intellegent design.
Such predictions are:
Junk DNA will be found to have a purpose.
Organs that seem to be useless will be found to have a purpose.
"It's too complex to happened naturally"
Because it is.

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