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AlgolagniaVolcae
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Message 91 of 97 (293246)
03-08-2006 10:48 AM


Wow, that's alot of back posts to read through. I hope all the contributors to this thread will forgive me if I am a bit lazy and do not go over every post, or if the following has been said.
There have been many expeditions up Mt.Ararat, ground expeditions and aerial surveillance photos never found anything conclusive. In one expedition wooden fragments were found, but were later dated to a more recent period. Knowing that alot of people disagree with current methods of dating materials that in itself isn't much incentive to believe it wasn't from the ark.
However when nothing was found on the surface two seperate teams went back to the mountain and used ground penetrating radar to search for anything below the ice, they found nothing.
Access to the mountain and it's air space has been revoked, so if something is there it will not be found.
All of the expeditions and many of the better photos were all featured in a television special which aired on the Discovery Channel. Here's a link I dug up though on the subject of the expeditions, Noah's Ark Search - Mount Ararat.
Currently a man named Ron Wyatt has claimed to have discovered Noah's Ark(and claims the construction of it used aluminum as well as wood), Mt.Sinai, The Ark of the Covenant, and Sodom and Gamorrah. He even has an amusing theory on how the Egyptian Pyramids were created using machines simply because he could build one using modern knowledge and materials in his backyard.
It probably comes as no surprise that everything on his webpage associated with these "discoveries", including newsletters cost money.
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arachnophilia
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Message 92 of 97 (293512)
03-08-2006 10:35 PM
Reply to: Message 91 by AlgolagniaVolcae
03-08-2006 10:48 AM


Currently a man named Ron Wyatt
ron wyatt, god rest his loonie soul, is not currently doing anything other than growing grass.


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AlgolagniaVolcae
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Message 93 of 97 (293759)
03-09-2006 7:02 PM
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03-08-2006 10:35 PM


I didn't realize he was dead, I never followed his life that closely because he was crazy. I just knew he had claimed alot of untrue discoveries.

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arachnophilia
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Message 94 of 97 (293788)
03-09-2006 9:01 PM
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03-09-2006 7:02 PM


that puts it mildly. i would have used the term "crackpot" or maybe "charlatan."
i only know anything about him at all because we've debated a few wyatt junkies here. it's fun stuff.
Headed way OT. Let's stick to the Mt. Araraat Anolaly and let Ron rest in peace.
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boolean
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Message 95 of 97 (297011)
03-21-2006 8:07 AM


Since 'SonClad' seems to think that if a large wooden boat was found on Mt. Ararat, you would have to be insane not to believe their was a world wide flood because any other possibility would be improbable, I have a question:
If a large wooden boat was found on/in Mt. Ararat, but it was not to the specifications of the bible (say, a quarter more or less in size), would you still see the boat as proof of the ark?

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Chiroptera
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Message 96 of 97 (297013)
03-21-2006 8:14 AM
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03-21-2006 8:07 AM


Hi, boolean.
I already asked SonClad that very question in this post (its near the end of the post). He seemed confused by it.

"Religion is the best business to be in. It's the only one where the customers blame themselves for product failure."
-- Ellis Weiner (quoted on the NAiG message board)

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boolean
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Message 97 of 97 (297018)
03-21-2006 8:54 AM
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03-21-2006 8:14 AM


Hi Chiroptera
That's kinda what I was (attempting) to base my point off. He seemed to think that having a box appear on a mountain is hardly evidence of anything, but having a boat appear would, because the bible states it should be there in such detail. He claims that having the arc there would be proof of the flood because:
quote:
--SonClad
Is there any evidence outside of the Epic of Gilgamesh to support its story? Are we told of the dimensions, construction material, resting location, etc? These questions, just to name a few, would have to be answered.
So from what I can tell, the reason a boat on that hill would be proof, as opposed to finding a box on a hill, is because the bible states "dimensions, construction material, resting location etc.". Those are what link to two events together. Finding a boat to those exact details MUST make it fact.
In that case, if a boat that looks just like the ark does appear tomorrow, but it's not to the exact specifications of the bible (eg. the bible states that the door should be built a bit differently), would he discount it as not being the real ark? Would he let other factors, apart from the fact that there is a boat on a hill (our problem = geology, his problem could = the bibles specifications), prove to himself that just because a boat is on that hill, it still doesn’t mean it is the ark?
p.s. Heh, this may not be the clearest point I have ever made. If you want me to clarify, I can. It's kinda late here at the moment ^_^
[edit - dang typos]
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