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mark24 Member (Idle past 5195 days) Posts: 3857 From: UK Joined: |
quote: One thing's for sure, even if it was proven that the human fossil was NOT pre cambrian in origin, it would STILL be in Answers In Genesis as a falsification. Mark ------------------Occam's razor is not for shaving with.
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Brad McFall Member (Idle past 5033 days) Posts: 3428 From: Ithaca,NY, USA Joined: |
[QUOTE]Originally posted by minnemooseus:
[b]This little packet appears all over the place, as the qualities that a valid theory should have. It should have:1) testable hypotheses[/QUOTE] [/b] I will confidently assert that this will be what Newton meant in the unpublished "conclusion" In the PRINCIPIA as to what genetic information could be garnered should electric fish electric wave forms be subjected to classic mendelian analysis (i.e. any genetic hypothesis that would then have to be tested and if confirmed the (the hypothesis) Cohen attempts to interpret Newton's use there of of.
[QUOTE][b]2) confirming evidence [/QUOTE] [/b]If true confirming evidence would be able to go beyond Lerner's concept of population genetics no matter the dispute between Fisher and Wright [QUOTE][b] 3) potential falsifications[/QUOTE] [/b] accrue from showing that the overlap of data bases explored data correlations would have had a science with two much mechanics (Newtonina + electromagnetic) for the same geometry BUT DIFFERENT geographies. This would approve then of not making a hypothesis but using one in the process of working FROM Newton's idea to whatever this would be by then.
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Adminnemooseus Administrator Posts: 3974 Joined: |
The subject matter of this topic is also that of a more recently started topic (1 piece of evidence to disprove evolution..). I think (biased opinion)this topic has much going for it, thus I'm giving it a bump.
I, however, don't think the two topics should be competing for the same messages, so I am also closing this one. Besides, that saves having to copy it to a different forum, rather than it being in the "Great Debate". I'll also get a link to this topic, into that other topic. Adminnemooseus ------------------Comments on moderation procedures? - Go to Change in Moderation? or too fast closure of threads
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Adminnemooseus Administrator Posts: 3974 Joined: |
Thread moved here from the The Great Debate forum.
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Adminnemooseus Administrator Posts: 3974 Joined: |
quote: Well, the above mentioned topic went badly off-topic, and was closed. Then, by popular demand, it was reopened. I've reopened this topic, and moved it to the "Evolution" forum. I expect to be highly intolerant to off-topic diversions. Cheers,Adminnemooseus (w/ minnemooseus looking over shoulder) ------------------Comments on moderation procedures? - Go to Change in Moderation? or too fast closure of threads
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Wounded King Member Posts: 4149 From: Cincinnati, Ohio, USA Joined: |
Gosh, I miss Brad.
I think that in the same way that molecular/ genetic data provides some of the best evidence for evolution so it should be a fertile area to look for falsifications. If two closely related species were found to have radically different mechanisms of development for example, as opposed to the highly conserved developmental systems we see between highly divergent species, i.e. fly and mouse.
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Minnemooseus Member Posts: 3941 From: Duluth, Minnesota, U.S. (West end of Lake Superior) Joined: Member Rating: 10.0 |
How to Disprove Evolution? at "The Panda's Thumb".
Much of what was mentioned there was mentioned upthread here. Yes, this is essentially a "bare link" message. But I thought the "PT" article deserved flagging, and this topic seemed to be the place to do it. Moose
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Cold Foreign Object  Suspended Member (Idle past 3048 days) Posts: 3417 Joined: |
A friendly reminder that Dr. Scott's invulnerable refutation of Darwinism, that is my paper unloading the full weight and ramifications is still being written.
Natural Selection Human Evolution Common Ancestry Macroevolution Theistic Evolution All of the above will be proven false: get some sleep while you can. The Bible will be proven absolutely true. When I am finished I will contact Admin Asgara and shortly thereafter I will proceed to forever rub it in your Darwinian faces. your enemy, Ray Martinez, life-long student of Dr. Gene Scott
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Chiroptera Inactive Member |
Sadly, with our God sense removed we will be unable to appreciate your efforts.
"Religion is the best business to be in. It's the only one where the customers blame themselves for product failure." -- Ellis Weiner (quoted on the NAiG message board)
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Brad McFall Member (Idle past 5033 days) Posts: 3428 From: Ithaca,NY, USA Joined: |
My suspicion is that the logical difference of series and sequences accounts for the failure to relate phenotypes and possible geographic types. I think this must have been what Wright chastised Provine for in the 80s when I was learning there was more to the nose of an electric fish than Lewontin thought in coupled differential equations of the tail of a snake. I now see that form in molecular realm is where any disproof is going to come from but it needs to be through some development to NAME supramolecular aggregates naturally and not be simply the same issue of any old Behe 'design' no matter the life. I guess I must have missed WK in 2003 here.
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Ratel Inactive Member |
Wow, that should be interesting. I've read a great many Creationist attempts to refute Evolution, it would be interesting to read one that was able to do what it claimed.
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Belfry Member (Idle past 5086 days) Posts: 177 From: Ocala, FL Joined: |
Sin of Pride, Ray. Even a favored angel can fall to it.
I think we're all looking forward to reading your paper. Wishing you no ill will whatsoever, Belfry
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MangyTiger Member (Idle past 6354 days) Posts: 989 From: Leicester, UK Joined: |
Hi Ray.
Just out of interest (and I am genuinely interested in what your paper will have to say) do you have any sort of a handle on when you're going to publish. Are we talking sometime this year for example? I wish I didn't know now what I didn't know then
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RAZD Member (Idle past 1405 days) Posts: 20714 From: the other end of the sidewalk Joined: |
Finding remains TOO EARLY says that the whole evolutionary tree is wrong. Actually there are several instances where this has happened and caused a restructuring of the local evolutionary tree (ie just around the fossil) - what were assumed to be ancestors are essentially shown to be cousins. Neanderthals as one example, but also see horse evolutionhttp://www.flmnh.ufl.edu/natsci/vertpaleo/fhc/Stratmap1.htm You'll have to hunt around the site a bit for a complete picture. The fossil would have to be significantly out of sequence -- and it would need to bridge some significant transitional ("macro"evolutionary) event: say a fossil with a mammalian ear before therapsids. Another thing that would falsify evolution would be a horizontal transfer of a significant feature from one species to another: say the appearance fully formed of an octopus type eye in a mammal (light sensors facing the light and fixed lens with focus accomplished by changing the whole eyeball shape -- without any transitional stages to turn the retina around or move the muscles from shaping the lens to shaping the eyeball. Or a combination of mammal and octopus eye so that you can change the lens focal length and the shape of the eyeball and have telescopic vision. These last two kind of things are what one should expect if ID were involved in species change btw. Enjoy. we are limited in our ability to understand by our ability to understand RebelAAmerican.Zen[Deist
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NosyNed Member Posts: 8996 From: Canada Joined: |
Awhile ago he gave an April date. I've not heard any change yet.
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