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Tusko
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Message 46 of 59 (301941)
04-07-2006 11:12 AM
Reply to: Message 43 by Larni
04-07-2006 3:58 AM


Re: Books
Its weird - with these fears there's always a a trick or ritual that enables you to overcome the projected malevolent force. If you pay the right dues then you can control it, or least keep it at bay.
When you look at it like that its almost a mechanism for finding comfort. There may be many things in your life that you can't control and that leave you scared and unhappy, but at least you can stop the bipedal wolves or the blood-sucking bat-devils from draining your essence.
Mmm. Essence.

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Tusko
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Message 47 of 59 (301956)
04-07-2006 11:27 AM
Reply to: Message 45 by U can call me Cookie
04-07-2006 10:24 AM


I'm totally with you on the prepubescent dream-hell. I can still remember many of my nightmares from childhood, including my "first" and "second" nightmares (that's what I thought of them as at the time anyway) from when I was three. They are still quite creepy to me when I think about them.
My first nightmare began with me and my father in some strange museum (I was crazy about the Natural History museum in London at the time), going down some steps. It was made from a rough yellow stone, and at the bottom were some dessicated heads hung high up on the wall. When we got to the bottom, there was a turn into this huge gallery room with an impossibly high ceiling. It was all empty except for a little glass case right in the middle. There were hardly any people in the room, and it was very cold. Anyway, in the case there was a white ghost, translucent and with a really unhappy expression on its face. It wasn't looking at me but seemed rather to be experiencing some unimaginable private grief. That moment seemed to stretch on for ages, with the cold and the ghost and the sadness.
This all sounds pretty cool, but in fact there is one thing that always undermines the story when I try to tell it to people - the ghost looked almost identical to a Pac-man ghost. I had obviously just been introduced to the idea of ghosts after going to an arcade and then asking what the villains were! Ah well. Young minds. Like sponges they are.

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Larni
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Message 48 of 59 (301963)
04-07-2006 11:40 AM
Reply to: Message 46 by Tusko
04-07-2006 11:12 AM


Re: Books
Mate, welcome to my world.
My job is to work with people with cognitive distortions, OCD and other weird beliefs.

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Tusko
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Message 49 of 59 (301971)
04-07-2006 11:47 AM
Reply to: Message 48 by Larni
04-07-2006 11:40 AM


Re: Books
That stuff fascinates me. How the hell do you get into that line of work?

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nator
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Message 50 of 59 (302586)
04-09-2006 8:14 AM


another fear
I just remembered how frightened of our basement I was whan I was small.
It was forbidden for me to go down there, which was good because it held a great many dangers for a little child; concrete steps with no railing, a workbench with dangerous tools, etc. I built it up in my mind to be a very scary place indeed.
When I got a little bit older, say 5 or 6, I remember jumpily going down there with my mother and jumping a foot in the air as the gas funace I was standing next to loudly WHOOSHED on.

  
ramoss
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Message 51 of 59 (302590)
04-09-2006 8:40 AM
Reply to: Message 48 by Larni
04-07-2006 11:40 AM


Re: Books
Is having an irrational fear in your childhood the norm? Frankly, I didn't really have anything that triggered off fear when I was a child. As an adult, I don't like laddrs, but having a bad ankle that sometimes gives way contributes to that.
How much of the OCD's and cognative disorders are inherited? (or tendancies). I know someonw who is schisoprhenic to the point of hearing voices (she thinks she is physic because of it), and who recently became pregnant. What are the chances of her child having a similar problem?

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Quetzal
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Message 52 of 59 (302623)
04-09-2006 1:20 PM


The Haunting
I am a true aficionado about horror movies. However, of all the dozens (hundreds?) of movies I've seen, the one that truly scared me half to death in my youth was Robert Wise's The Haunting. Even today, 40 years later, I still get goose-bumps when I (vividly) remember some of the scenes.
My only other phobia as a kid was the one I still struggle with: I'm middling claustrophobic.

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ReverendDG
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Message 53 of 59 (302683)
04-09-2006 5:39 PM
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04-09-2006 1:20 PM


Re: The Haunting
Wow Q, we have a lot in common, i love horror movies too, and i am claustrophobic, ok, really claustrophobic, urgh i sit here thinking about small spaces makes my spine tingle

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Quetzal
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Message 54 of 59 (302686)
04-09-2006 5:58 PM
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04-09-2006 5:39 PM


Re: The Haunting
Small world, eh?
If you like horror movies, and can get past the idea that "horror movie = slasher flic", then I can't recommend "The Haunting" more highly. Avoid (like the plague) the two or three iterations that came out since Wise's 1963 movie. It is a true "spine-tingler" where you (never) see the thing(s) causing the phenomena. Beautifully done camera shots, extraordinarily dark and gothic sets (deliberately filmed in black and white), and excellent acting all serve to leave the real horror up to your imagination - which creates worse demons than you could ever put on a screen. Watch it alone, at night, maybe during a storm - and be prepared to not sleep for a week.
Gawwds I love that movie.

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Jman
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Message 55 of 59 (302807)
04-10-2006 2:14 AM


I was afraid of my father. Nice huh?

  
Larni
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Message 56 of 59 (302814)
04-10-2006 4:23 AM
Reply to: Message 49 by Tusko
04-07-2006 11:47 AM


Re: Books
Yeah, it fascinated (still does too) me. I always wanted to understand why I was thinking the thoughts that I did (do). Many patients I have are motivated by negative predictions that they absolutely believe in (such as going out side will bring on a panic attack). This is identical to childhood fears in that logic takes a great deal of time (and evidence) to erode them away.
As kids we are forced to face our fears through maturation and we learn to get over them. As adults however, we have more control over our lives and can avoid the the situations that generate these fears and so never have the opportunity to challenge them.
I got into it by doing a psych degree and then doing a post grad in mental health in primary care for the NHS.
Take a look at the NHS website if you are interested. Look for Graduate Menatal Health Worker or Priamry Care Menatal Health Advisor.

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Lithodid-Man
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Message 57 of 59 (302816)
04-10-2006 4:51 AM
Reply to: Message 1 by Brad McFall
04-05-2006 4:14 PM


A movie I can't remember
When I was a little kid I saw a movie about a woman who broke out the bricks in her house (maybe in a fireplace?) and let loose these little people that terrorized her. I was afraid of these up to my teen years. I remember them (in the movie) turning off the light switch while she was taking a shower. Does anyone remember that movie? Would have been 70's, early.

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Larni
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Message 58 of 59 (302817)
04-10-2006 4:55 AM
Reply to: Message 51 by ramoss
04-09-2006 8:40 AM


Re: Books
Will have to get back on you about the genetics of schizophrenia, but (from memory) it does have a genetic component. However, monozygote twins show at best 50% correlation of disorder. This indicates that it is NOT a given that it will transmit through generations.
Genetics works hand in hand with the environment and cognition in these cases so to point to any one 'cause' is impossible.
With OCD and cog distorts we all (i.e. every human being) have a genetic predisposition as a species to develope these behaviours (it's part of social learning of cause and effect) and cognitions. We are all very prepared to learn to be afraid of spiders for instance.
Growing up in a house hold where every one uses phrases like "touch wood" to ward off ill luck or not opening an umbrella in the house (because it will bring bad luck) will transmit that behaviour across generations. We learn it. Thats what humans do. We are the best learners on the planet. Sometimes (often) we learn to believe the wrong things.
Supperstitous behaviour is just like OCD. We try to control what we percieve we need to with some form of ritual that we have 'learned' will increase our control (washing germs away etc). Whether this actually works does not matter. We learn to believe it works. Like a magic spell, a ritual or a prayer. We can't prove it does not work and we fear to take a chance (by not performing the ritual) that it does not work.
Here is something to think about. The prayer some people offer to they're gods could be seen in exactly the way I have described above.
Ed: Checking profile update
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Brad McFall
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Message 59 of 59 (306722)
04-26-2006 12:43 PM
Reply to: Message 37 by roxrkool
04-06-2006 6:44 PM


the painter is...
The painter was my Grandmother's Uncle Earl, one of 12. My sister has most of the family pictures and noticed that Earl is always seen in a picture with many "women" around. He lived in Pittsburgh but could have made drawings anywhere from there to Buffalo and Batavia.
The painting was made in 1942, so it probably express "war sentiment" and hence is so, so arresting. The charcoal of this frontal view remains as well as a side view of a pan less symmetrically designed.

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