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EZscience
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Message 16 of 19 (307827)
04-29-2006 10:25 PM
Reply to: Message 15 by ohnhai
04-29-2006 8:23 PM


I agree
These are obviously very sentient creatures.
Most species are endangered or declining wherever they occur.
Its not like they are a threat to rise up and start a new political party.
They are our closest biological relatives on the planet.
If we can't make an overture of humanity towards them, what hope does the rest of 'creation' have?

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Omnivorous
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Message 17 of 19 (307871)
04-30-2006 8:29 AM
Reply to: Message 1 by ohnhai
04-26-2006 10:08 PM


Discomfitting reminders
Giving other primates rights instead of extinction sounds like a good idea to me, but I don't think the idea will ever garner enough support to become reality.
They are our "living link" with the tree of life, with all the emotional, implicating baggage of fossil "missing links"--there is no greater proof in nature of our common biological heritage; no other being is so likely to elicit the "I AM NOT AN ANIMAL!" gut response, because no other animal reminds us so clearly that we are, indeed, just another animal and one very like these.
An indifference to their apparent fate, and even the notion that the best place for other primates is as experimental subjects in our labs, reflects the discomfort they create among deniers of our evolutionary origins. It takes a massive amount of denial to reject our obvious relatives, a denial that perhaps would prefer to see them removed from the world.
All the great apes are gravely threatened. They are too close to us to be accepted simply as animals, and too far to be embraced by many as family. They are most likely doomed.
Of course, if we could teach them to carry weapons and kill on command, we might give them the right to drink weak beer in their camps at 18.

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LudoRephaim
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Message 18 of 19 (308237)
05-01-2006 2:03 PM
Reply to: Message 15 by ohnhai
04-29-2006 8:23 PM


I do think that dogs should have rights like humans. They act a whole lot like us (espcially mine. He thinks he is human!)

"The Nephilim where in the Earth in those days..." Genesis 6:4

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PurpleYouko
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Message 19 of 19 (308246)
05-01-2006 3:05 PM
Reply to: Message 18 by LudoRephaim
05-01-2006 2:03 PM


Cats too
I do think that dogs should have rights like humans. They act a whole lot like us (espcially mine. He thinks he is human!)
Same thing with my cat
It's obvious who is the boss in our family.

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