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kuresu
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Message 106 of 108 (311776)
05-14-2006 4:18 PM
Reply to: Message 104 by inkorrekt
05-14-2006 3:09 PM


Re: waffling.
you know verywell that the foundation of evolution is based purely on Naturalism which is a philosophy and it is not even Science
perhaps you should try learning what philosophy is, Ink. In a nutshell, it is the search for knowledge or truth. Theology is a philosophy. Communism is a philosophy.
Philosophy breaks down into many, many branches. This inlcude, but not limited to, ethics, aesthetics, metaphysics, and science.
Yes, science is a philosophy, based off of methodological naturalism.
quote:
from wikipedia: Methodological naturalism is the belief that observable events in nature are explained only by natural causes without assuming the existence or non-existence of the supernatural
That pretty much sums up what science is and attempts to do. Otherwise we might be trying to disprove the existence of God(s), which you creationists love to assume that that's what we are doing.

All a man's knowledge comes from his experiences

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Message 107 of 108 (311814)
05-14-2006 8:44 PM
Reply to: Message 105 by RAZD
05-14-2006 4:09 PM


We...
Maybe its a royal " WE ".
Or maybe he has a mouse in his pocket...

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RAZD
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Message 108 of 108 (311822)
05-14-2006 9:07 PM
Reply to: Message 104 by inkorrekt
05-14-2006 3:09 PM


Re: waffling.
First of all you know verywell that the foundation of evolution is based purely on Naturalism which is a philosophy and it is not even Science.
"Naturalism" -- from dictionary.com
nat·u·ral·ism n.
1. Factual or realistic representation, especially:
...a. The practice of describing precisely the actual circumstances of human life in literature.
...b. The practice of reproducing subjects as precisely as possible in the visual arts.
2.
...a. A movement or school advocating such precise representation.
...b. The principles and methods of such a movement or of its adherents.
3. Philosophy. The system of thought holding that all phenomena can be explained in terms of natural causes and laws.
4. Theology. The doctrine that all religious truths are derived from nature and natural causes and not from revelation.
5. Conduct or thought prompted by natural desires or instincts.
Seeing as you are not talking about art or theology (specifically deism ...) you must mean definition #3 ...
... that all phenomena can be explained in terms of natural causes and laws.
This includes every science ever known to man and all those yet to be, so evolution is in no special status as a "holy cow" in that regard.
sci·ence n.
1.
...a. The observation, identification, description, experimental investigation, and theoretical explanation of phenomena.
...b. Such activities restricted to a class of natural phenomena.
...c. Such activities applied to an object of inquiry or study.
2. Methodological activity, discipline, or study: I've got packing a suitcase down to a science.
3. An activity that appears to require study and method: the science of purchasing.
4. Knowledge, especially that gained through experience.
Notice that there is no special distinction between evolution and other science in this definition.
We are only asking simple questions. We are not getting any answers.
You are getting many very specific answers. They just don't happen to be ones you like. Let me check the natural world ....
... yep. The world is not specifically made for your personal theological or whatever comfort. That's life. Like it or lump it.

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