I couldnt go online for a while so sorry if Im bringing up some old stuff.
The reference to Peleg is not intended to give a date - it is to explain why he was named "Peleg". Thus the whole argument is built on sand. As I pointed out earlier, it is most likely that the author meant that Peleg was born around the time of the "division" and thus named after it.
The bible didnt give any reason to make us think that the reference to Peleg was mentioned because it explains why he was named so. He can be a very important calendar patriarch.
Thus your source is taking an extremely speculative and dubious reading to justify futher speculative and dubious readings. In short he's decided what he wants the Bible to say and is trying to force it to fit his ideas. Do you really endorse that ?u
He didnt change anything, at least nothing contradicts that explanation I just did on message 116. If there is please tell me, because I would like to be corrected. And if you go to the link and read further, he explains some more about this and why he thinks there is such and such gap between Eber and Peleg and other calendar patriarchs.
Hi, Crue, at 15, I salute you for putting on your thinking cap. That`s all one could ask of you. From your link-Chap 2
Evolution's Absurdities
The notion called evolution can be easily shown to be utterly impossible. Consider a simple object like a table. How did that table come into existence? No one can deny that a human being designed it and then carefully constructed it. Under no circumstance can anyone conclude that over a long period of time that table somehow evolved. Every person with even the slightest intelligence knows that.
Jump now to a human being with his more than three billion pairs of DNA in his genome. Obviously, the design of the human genome is a million times more complex than the design of the table. Thus, if a simple object like a table requires a designer, certainly, a being as complex as a human being also requires a designer. Furthermore, if this table had to be manufactured by someone after it was designed, it should be immediately obvious that a human being also has to be made by someone. For that matter, everywhere we look in this universe, we find millions of objects far more complex than a simple table. If a simple table could
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not be a product of evolution, then neither can any of these other millions of objects in the universe be a product of evolution.
The very fact that intelligent men and women slavishly maintain the idea of evolution is a fact in itself that proves there is a God who created the universe. The conduct of these individuals in believing in the supposed reality of such a preposterous idea as that of evolution in itself indicates that deep in their being, perhaps in their subconscious mind, they know that there must be a divine creator. What other reason could there be that would cause intelligent men and women to try to believe in such an impossible concept as evolution?
As an exercise, can you point out the flaws in the author`s reasoning?
Hey thanks.
And yes, if you only read one part of something you will not get the meaning. He'll explain later, chapter 2 didnt really go into much detail about anything. That's why I (a biblical creationist) am trying to study evolution also so I know both sides of the coin.
(If you can give me some good book titles on evlolution, it will interest me. And has evolution theories changes alot since 1992? Because I have a pretty old Brittanica Encypda from 1992, where I study evolution)
It refers to the Book of Danile itself which will only be revealed in the end times.
The whole Bible is God's word. Not Daniel's book. And like I said, we shouldn't look at the Bible too literally. He meant the hidden things in the [whole] Bible.
You're telling me that God made Noah spend a 100 years! building an ark when he could've just taken a trip out of town and avoided the flood?
If you read the Bible somewhat, you will see:
Gen 7:19-20 writes:
19 And the waters prevailed exceedingly upon the earth; and all the high hills, that were under the whole heaven, were covered.
20 Fifteen cubits upward did the waters prevail; and the mountains were covered.
The entire earth was covered, the whole human pop. was destroyed(besides Noah and his family of coarse). Besides, if he just took a trip out of town, he would have been disobeying God and he himself would have been killed.
We also know that it is 100% impossible to reproduce species from a breeding population of 2.
There is also the problem of all the water and it's effect on the temperature of the earth...
And there are a ton of other problems.
The flood is a myth and believing in it is ridiculous
So if evolution were true and the Bible wrong, the world would be overpopulated by now since it took billions of years to evolve us and all the modern animals. Or we would not exsist since, like you said, it would be impossible to reproduce species from a breeding pop of 2. Wasn't there just one cell that survived after the big bang? Seems as if it populated the whole earth.
And possibly you're right for some animals, and they died out, as for many animals today become extinct. Possibly they even died aboard. The Bible didnt say if they all came out alive.
As I said, this is a science forum. The Bible claims carry no more weight than the Grimm Brothers' claims. They are not evidence.
But we may see evidence in them.
Well, no they haven't - not even close. Where's the working prototype? Where's the year-long (maiden) test voyage with two of every kind of animal and a crew of eight? Where's the soft-landing on a mountain-top? Where's the animals redistributing themselves to the four corners of the earth and building viable populations?
That as you know would be impossible to do without God's help. Remember, God was involved in all this. It was not all Noah.
This would also cost alot of money. The ark would have been part of the wonders of the world if it ever was discovered.
According to my calculations:
About 33,750 sq feet for the ark's floor.
About 101,250 sq feet for all levels combined.
About 112 1/2 football fields for just 1 level.
About 337 1/2 football fields for all three levels!
Thats huge and would cost lots of money to make. This is also enough to hold all the animals.
And even though it was in 4990 B.C. it took him a long time to build this ark. And would be impossible without God's help. (For ex: God gave Samson "impossible" strength. But it was not all Samson's strength.)
Don't get out much, eh? Once you get your ark prototype built, try floating it down the Mississippi without permission. See how far you get.
I think you're too busy attacking him you're not making any sense. Please re-read and think.
The plain language of the Bible is not all literal history. Trusting God includes trusting Him not to lie to us in His creation. If we look at the world around us, we can use our God-given brains to figure out which parts of the Bible are literally true and which are not.
It's true that Christ said (i forgot where in the bible), everything He speaks is a parable. (the whole Bible is spiritually speaking a parable) But the historical facts are true (which includes Noah's flood).
Once again, this is a science forum and you'll have to do a lot better at providing "evidence" that the flood really happened.
Perhaps finding aquatic animals on the top of mountains? Scientist did!
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