The Barbarity of Christianity (as compared to Islam)

Any pictures of it? I can't find any. Islam is a stupid religion. That's how much I believe your non sequitur. That modest, humble, obedient, honest people that surrender to Allah, have perseverance in righteousness, give to charity, fast, and remember Allah will gain forgiveness and a vast reward that has been prepared for them by Allah. Not that I can see, maybe we have different Qur'ans? Perhaps one of us is looking at the wrong one? They also watched TV and lived in America. Are you sure that you want to start going all Post Hoc Ergo Propter Hoc on us? Really? Was Nathan Gale a Muslim? Do you realize how insane you sound when you engage in this kind of hyperbole? It is not true, not at all. In fact, its quite false.

Have you ever actually read the passages? Or have you just trusted some religious leader's interpretation?How about a little exercise where I go through the passages that could be interpreted as a call to violence against "infidels" and compare them to passages in the Bible. I already know that some here will present some excuses as to why the Bible passages should not be interpreted in this negative way or that the crucifixion and resurrection of Jesus negates these passages somehow, but that is not the point. The point is that you as a Christian cannot possibly have the right or knowledge to interpret Quranic texts for the Muslims, just like you would say that I as an atheist do not have the right or knowledge to interpret the following Biblical passages.Let's begin. When two or more commands/admonitions/etc are in one selection of passages I will highlight lines of text which discuss similar matters in the same color text.Surah 33:19** - Such have not believed. Therefore Allah maketh their deeds fruitlessandSurah 33:25-26 - And Allah repulsed the disbelievers in their wrath; they gained no good. Allah averted their attack from the believers. Allah is ever Strong, Mighty. Allah cast panic into the hearts of the disbelievers. He killed some, and enslaved others.
33:26 And He brought those of the People of the Scripture who supported them down from their strongholds, and cast panic into their hearts. Some ye slew, and ye made captive some.Compare Leviticus 26:16-22* - I also will do this unto you; I will even appoint over you terror, consumption, and the burning ague, that shall consume the eyes, and cause sorrow of heart: and ye shall sow your seed in vain, for your enemies shall eat it.
26:17 And I will set my face against you, and ye shall be slain before your enemies: they that hate you shall reign over you; and ye shall flee when none pursueth you.
26:18 And if ye will not yet for all this hearken unto me, then I will punish you seven times more for your sins.
26:19 And I will break the pride of your power; and I will make your heaven as iron, and your earth as brass:
26:20 And your strength shall be spent in vain: for your land shall not yield her increase, neither shall the trees of the land yield their fruits.
26:21 And if ye walk contrary unto me, and will not hearken unto me; I will bring seven times more plagues upon you according to your sins.
26:22 I will also send wild beasts among you, which shall rob you of your children , and destroy your cattle, and make you few in number; and your high ways shall be desolate.
__________________________________________________________________Surah 33:48 - And incline not to the disbelievers and the hypocrites. Disregard their noxious talk, and put thy trust in Allah. Allah is sufficient as Trustee.Compare Deutoronomy 12:29-30 - When the LORD thy God shall cut off the nations from before thee, whither thou goest to possess them, and thou succeedest them, and dwellest in their land;
12:30 Take heed to thyself that thou be not snared by following them, after that they be destroyed from before thee; and that thou enquire not after their gods, saying, How did these nations serve their gods? even so will I do likewiseand2 Corinthians 6:14-15 - Be ye not unequally yoked together with unbelievers: for what fellowship hath righteousness with unrighteousness? and what communion hath light with darkness?
6:15 And what concord hath Christ with Belial? or what part hath he that believeth with an infidel?and 2 Timothy 2:16 - But shun profane and vain babblings: for they will increase unto more ungodliness.___________________________________________________________________Surah 33:57-58 - Lo! those who malign Allah and His messenger, Allah hath cursed them in the world and the Hereafter, and hath prepared for them the doom of the disdained.
33:58 And those who malign believing men and believing women undeservedly, they bear the guilt of slander and manifest sin.Compare Deutoronomy 7:9-10 - Know therefore that the LORD thy God, he is God, the faithful God, which keepeth covenant and mercy with them that love him and keep his commandments to a thousand generations;
7:10 And repayeth them that hate him to their face, to destroy them: he will not be slack to him that hateth him, he will repay him to his face.____________________________________________________________________Surah 33:64-68 - Lo! Allah hath cursed the disbelievers, and hath prepared for them a flaming fire, 33:65 Wherein they will abide for ever. They will find (then) no protecting friend nor helper.
33:66 On the day when their faces are turned over in the Fire, they say: Oh, would that we had obeyed Allah and had obeyed His messenger!
33:67 And they say: Our Lord! Lo! we obeyed our princes and great men, and they misled us from the Way.
33:68 Our Lord! Oh, give them double torment and curse them with a mighty curse.andSurah 35:36 - But as for those who disbelieve, for them is fire of hell; it taketh not complete effect upon them so that they can die, nor is its torment lightened for them. Thus We punish every ingrate.Compare Deutoronomy 28:15-22 - But it shall come to pass, if thou wilt not hearken unto the voice of the LORD thy God, to observe to do all his commandments and his statutes which I command thee this day; that all these curses shall come upon thee, and overtake thee: 28:16 Cursed shalt thou be in the city, and cursed shalt thou be in the field.
28:17 Cursed shall be thy basket and thy store.
28:18 Cursed shall be the fruit of thy body, and the fruit of thy land, the increase of thy kine, and the flocks of thy sheep.
28:19 Cursed shalt thou be when thou comest in, and cursed shalt thou be when thou goest out.
28:20 The LORD shall send upon thee cursing, vexation, and rebuke, in all that thou settest thine hand unto for to do, until thou be destroyed, and until thou perish quickly; because of the wickedness of thy doings, whereby thou hast forsaken me.
28:21 The LORD shall make the pestilence cleave unto thee, until he have consumed thee from off the land, whither thou goest to possess it.
28:22 The LORD shall smite thee with a consumption, and with a fever, and with an inflammation, and with an extreme burning, and with the sword, and with blasting, and with mildew; and they shall pursue thee until thou perish.and2 Thessalonians 1:8 - In flaming fire taking vengeance on them that know not God___________________________________________________________________Surah 34:5 - But those who strive against Our revelations, challenging (Us), theirs will be a painful doom of wrath.Compare 1 Samuel 2:10 - The adversaries of the LORD shall be broken to pieces; out of heaven shall he thunder upon them__________________________________________________________________Surah 35:8 - Allah verily sendeth whom He will astray, and guideth whom He willCompare 2 Thessalonians 2:11-12 - And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie:
2:12 That they all might be damned who believed not the truth, but had pleasure in unrighteousness__________________________________________________________________I concentrated on Surah 33-35 because that is what you, inkorrekt, were using as evidence and those are the passages most often cited by Christians as "evidence" of Islam's violent nature, but there are many more passages in both the Quran and in the Bible that allow for the killing of non-believers or the destruction of their holy places, call disbelievers and Jews evil, liars and murderers, describe the eternal punishment for unbelievers and the glories awaiting the true believers, and so on and so on. I could do a more thorough comparison if anyone wishes, although, it will take some time.Like many on here have said, extremists can take almost any passage in either text and fit it to condone their most violent actions.*KJV version of Bible used
**Pickthall translation of Quran usedEdited by Jaderis, : Added links to texts

Let's see.They refuse to let them enter into a legal bond with their partners.There have been efforts to remove protections from gays when it comes to employment, and when ti comes to housing, based on their sexual preferences.They get kicked out of the military if their preferences are found out.Hum. Sounds like being oppressed to me.

These men are dead and gone. No one is talking about them. We are dealing with the present day reality and threats to our civilization posed by Islamofascism.

No, we're not. Read the OP. We're talking about "the barbarity of Christianity" (as compared to Islam).

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Which planet are you living in?

Here is something for you to check out. This came recently.
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AFter you check these pictures, then you tell me who these people are.They are not ChristiansEdited by AdminJar, : No reason given.

Well, the topic here is Christians.Do you have anything to say about the topic?

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This was a picture of young militant Muslims who were screaming and yelling at the british and the USA Govwernments. They even warned about another 911. You must see the posters. This rally was conducted 1 month ago. Immediately after this, they were planning to blow up the international planes through liquid explosives. Thank God. The Scotland yard is the best in the world.

Inkorrekt, do you have anything to say about my comparison (Message 197) of Surah 33-35 to passages in the Bible? Or do you admit that you haven't read the Quran and are just parroting fundie lies?Like I said I can do a more thorough comparison, but if you are just going to blatantly ignore the fact that the OT and the NT are just as bloody and condemning of disbelievers as the Quran and believe whatever the fundie talking heads tell you to believe or that what the extremist Islamic fundies put forward to the world is representative of all Muslims, then let me know so I can stop waiting for a reply.Thanks.

Thanks for posting the exhaustive material. I will read and respond. In the meantime, please answer this. All those 19 terrorists who caused 911 had a check list. The last item in their check list was to read the koran. If they are going to kill and destroy valuable human life, why would they read this book which is considered to be sacred just before committing such atrocious acts in the name of Allah?Edited by inkorrekt, : grammar and expression

Same reason that Christian soldiers also read the Bible before going into battle - it comforts them.

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If you could provide a link where I can confirm this anecdote, I would be greaty appreciative.In the meantime, I will answer assuming the story is true. I said (and demonstrated how in my comparison) in my original post that extremists can take any part of the Quran or the Bible and use it to the most vicious and bloody ends. Those 19 men very well may have felt that the Quran and Allah sanctioned what they were about to do. However, the vast majority of Muslims disagree.Continuing what Ringo said, I wonder how many Christians read the Bible before whipping their slaves, before killing vast amounts of Muslims and Jews during the Crusades,before burning innocent women alive on suspicion of being a witch (actually the Bible does condone this), before gassing Jews and others in concentration camps, before massacring entire villages in Vietnam and all the other wars in the past 2000 years, etc, etc...

I don't think you'll find that the Bible condones burning people who are suspected of being witches. And if truly a witch then I do not see the problem: it's not like they are an elite group for whom 'burning' will be the outcome.Define 'innocent'.

So, what's the difference between "suspecting" that somebody's a witch and "knowing" that somebody's a witch?Is it like the difference between "suspecting" that that blinking light is an alien spaceship and "knowing" that you've been probed?

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