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Author Topic:   Reality is not based upon our perception.
Ben!
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Message 4 of 37 (345939)
09-02-2006 1:36 AM
Reply to: Message 1 by Christian7
09-01-2006 9:09 PM


In this post I would like to propose the idea that reality is absolute, that no matter how our consciousness percieves it, it is as it is.
First of all, I think you're not differentiating between our perceptual systems and our consciousness. "Our perceptions" involve both things, but they are very different.
To get right to it, I don't know that your statement has any meaning. What does it mean that "reality is absolute"? If we cannot know it "as it is", then what does it mean to propose it? It's an untestable hypothesis, as far as I can tell.
I believe our conscious experience of "reality" is nothing more than a convenient representation of aspects of our world that matter to us--I think that means Mick and I agree, no? "Reality" itself has no shape, size, surface, brightness--these are all constructs of our minds, constructs that allow certain energy forms to persist in time.
We operate on very specific size and time scales; "reality" is much more than we perceive. At the same time, "reality" is much less than what we experience--it is formless, nameless. It is as formless as numbers packed into your RAM memory. Our involuntary processing and categorization of sensory input imposes form upon this formless "reality", and our involuntary conscious perception tells us it is real.
Imagine what "reality" is like without conscious perception, without categorization, without these involuntary impositions. I'd be interested to know what image you have, what feeling you get; if you try, post what you think!

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