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Wounded King
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Message 20 of 44 (346738)
09-05-2006 4:45 PM
Reply to: Message 18 by Hyroglyphx
09-05-2006 4:07 PM


Re: The criminal conduct of J. Wells
Here we go, why not read about Well's motivations in his own words.
Father's words, my studies, and my prayers convinced me that I should devote my life to destroying Darwinism, just as many of my fellow Unificationists had already devoted their lives to destroying Marxism. When Father chose me (along with about a dozen other seminary graduates) to enter a Ph.D. program in 1978, I welcomed the opportunity to prepare myself for battle.
But Darwinism was clearly winning the ideological battle in the universities, the public schools, and the mass media, largely because it claimed to be supported by scientific evidence. I knew enough about biology to know that this claim was quite shaky, but few scientists were willing to challenge it. Those who did were often lumped together with young-earth biblical fundamentalists and thereby discredited in the eyes of most scholars.
I eventually decided to join the fray by returning to graduate school in biology. I was convinced that embryology is the Achilles' heel of Darwinism; one cannot understand how organisms evolve unless one understands how they develop. In 1989, I entered a second Ph.D. program, this time in biology, at the University of California at Berkeley. While there, I studied embryology and evolution.
Sounds pretty explicitly as if he intended to recieve his doctorate in order to recieved in order to 'overthrow evolution' at the behest of Reverend Moon as part of an orchestrated effort. It seems that Mr Cashill is pretty unreliable, he doesn't write for the Washington post does he?
I hope this helps you see that Well's foray into science was motivated by the unification church's explicitly anti-evolutionary agenda.
TTFN,
WK
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Wounded King
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Message 23 of 44 (346745)
09-05-2006 4:55 PM
Reply to: Message 22 by Clark
09-05-2006 4:49 PM


Re: The criminal conduct of J. Wells
Do you mean the Washington Times? That paper is owned by Rev. Moon.
That was the one.
TTFN,
WK

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Wounded King
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Message 26 of 44 (346816)
09-05-2006 7:50 PM
Reply to: Message 24 by Hyroglyphx
09-05-2006 5:58 PM


Re: The criminal conduct of J. Wells
Ummm, did you actually read what Wells himself wrote? It has already been quoted twice in this thread!
He specifically says that Moon chose him in 1978 to enter the Ph.D program at Yale.
No mention of his doctorate being recieved in order to overthrow evolution.
Wow! I can actually hear you steadily shifting the goalposts. How come this strong claim has been abandoned with no accession as to its falsity, but instead we have these protestations that you are still right because Wells already had a degree in which biology was a minor.
Why not read what Wells himself wrote, admit that you were mislead by Cashill's account and move on from there. Or if you don't believe that Wells wrote it give us some reason why not.
TTFN,
WK
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Wounded King
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Message 32 of 44 (346898)
09-06-2006 1:54 AM
Reply to: Message 29 by Hyroglyphx
09-05-2006 10:55 PM


Re: The criminal conduct of J. Wells
And to clarify, my objection was that people claimed that Wells had no prior knowledge of evolution prior to becoming a Moonie. This is ridiculous. The man had already Ph.D's beforehand.
How wilfully ignorant can you be!!! Read the bloody link!!! What you are saying is just complete tripe and you are now repeating it for the third time in the face of clearly contadictory evidence from Wells himself.
Where does your Bizzaro world timeline where Wells has 2 Ph.Ds before becoming a moonie even come from? In Wells' own article on the subject he makes it quite clear that he joined the unification church in 1976, 2 years before first entering a Ph.D program.
Jut read what he wrote!
Obviously, they want to paint this picture of a man who made a flippant decision based on little to no facts prior, even though he already held a Ph.D in biology.
You are living in cloud-cuckoo land. What people are quite explicitly saying is that Wells went on to higher post-graduate studies and particularly studies involving Darwinism and evolution because he was directed to do so by Reverend Moon.
That would be absurd.
Whats absurd is the way you seem to be both incapable of reading what Wells wrote, understanding what I and others have written several times and quite willing to keep on spouting errant nonsense which has already been shown to be false.
If you actually have an objection to the veracity of that link, if you suspect that Wells did not write it, then say so and maybe explain why. Otherwise you just seem to be stuck in denial.
TTFN,
WK
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Wounded King
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Message 41 of 44 (347019)
09-06-2006 3:57 PM
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09-06-2006 3:09 PM


Re: The criminal conduct of J. Wells
No, the assertion was that Wells had no exposure to the theory of evolution prior to joining the Moonies.
Can you show where someone asserted this?
TTFN,
WK

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