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Author Topic:   Mark 16:9
jar
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Message 3 of 18 (355273)
10-08-2006 6:55 PM
Reply to: Message 1 by rstrats
10-08-2006 6:43 PM


No.
But I wonder how someone could get that out of Mark 16:9 anyway.
9When Jesus rose early on the first day of the week, he appeared first to Mary Magdalene, out of whom he had driven seven demons.
Of course there is a qustion whether Mark 16:9-20 were actually part of the original or just added later anyway.

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jar
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Message 5 of 18 (355275)
10-08-2006 7:11 PM
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10-08-2006 7:06 PM


Re: No.
The area I can't understand was your point in
which in turn they used - at least in part - to justify the establishment of the first day of the week as a special day for rest and worship?
I don't see how that would be related at all. The day of rest and worship was designated in Genesis 1 as the last day of the week.
I just don't see how anyone would make a connection to anything in Mark 16:9.

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jar
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Message 7 of 18 (355277)
10-08-2006 7:32 PM
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10-08-2006 7:22 PM


Re: No.
Okay, but what does that have to do with what you asked in the initial post?
You asked:
"Does anyone know of a published author who has used Mark 16:9 to support a first day of the week resurrection which in turn they used - at least in part - to justify the establishment of the first day of the week as a special day for rest and worship?
I replied that I did not know of such and author, that the content of Mark 16:9 seems to have nothing to do with a day of rest and that even the validity of Mark 16:9-20 is in question.
My experience has been that whenever a first day of the week observer is asked about the reason for their observance, their reply usually includes a first day of the week resurrection. Then when asked about their reason for thinking that the resurrection occurred on the first day of the week, they usually include a reference to Mark 16:9.
Okay. Then I think you have the answer. They are using Mark 16:9. Fine. It's not like anyone has a clue what the first or last day of the week was, or that it makes any difference.
If they are happy, why would anyone else care?

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jar
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Message 10 of 18 (355284)
10-08-2006 7:57 PM
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10-08-2006 7:50 PM


Re: No.
jar writes:
Fine. It's not like anyone has a clue what the first or last day of the week was...
to which rstrats replied:
quote:
Again, I don’t understand. On what do you base that statement?
Over the time that mankind has had a concept of weeks there have been many changes so that any idea that today is "the first day of the week" only applies to some current calendar.
Sorry, can't help you with an author.

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jar
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Message 12 of 18 (355293)
10-08-2006 8:58 PM
Reply to: Message 11 by rstrats
10-08-2006 8:18 PM


Re: No.
Sorry, but I answered your question. I know of no author. It is good to know that the Creation was on the current days of the week. Also good to know that some folk think Jesus sinless.It is also good to know that Monday has always been the first day of the week, and Sunday the last day. I will try to forward that information to all the silly calendar makers that allow people to choose what the first day of the week was.
Anyway. this was my last post in this thread.
I know of no author for you.
I know of no reason anyone would even care.
I see no reason to connect the content of Mark 16:9 to what day should be celebrated.
I really don't care whether someone celebrates on the first or seventh day.
The Sabbath that the Messiah honored was the Sabbath that his fellow countrymen used. They had honored it for centuries. If He had been honoring it on the incorrect day, then He would have been in violation of the Commandment and therefore not sinless.
The question of what day is the Sabbath or that there might be an incorrect day is really pretty silly.
The day that Jesus celebrated the sabbath has ABSOLUTELY nothing to do with when someone else celebrates the Sabbath.
The commandment says to keep the Sabbath Holy. It does not say that it is necessary for everybody to call the same day Sabbath.
AbE:
In addition, the whole idea of a fixed calendar was not in effect through most of the period of the old testament. Different towns and villages worked on different calendars with the local Sanhedrin inserting months as he deemed needed to keep the holidays in the proper season.
Edited by jar, : No reason given.

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