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NOT JULIUS
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Message 14 of 303 (367361)
12-01-2006 6:46 PM
Reply to: Message 1 by PurpleTeddyBear
11-29-2006 9:04 PM


Did Christ abolish the laws in OT
Hi Purple,
Please excuse Gov Pilate. My time machine malfunctioned, so I was rather late in coming to this forum. And, one more thing. Why do my cheeks appear swolen and my nostrils enlarge whenever I introduce my self? Ha ha ha. :=) :=)
Seriously and on to your beautiful question:
Did Jesus Christ do away the laws in the OT? I think Christians invented the concept Jesus did away with the old laws to distance themselves from one of the many 623 strange, violent, meaningless or otherwise vile laws of the OT. I am sure many of you will agree by today’s standards many of the laws in the OT are unacceptable.
Here is my take:
Mat 5:17-18. Jesus said he did not come to abolish the law but to fulfill it.
Col 2:14-17. Paul said that Christ's death cancelled the decrees against Christians.
At first it would appear that these are contradictory. But, it is not. Romans 7:6,7 speaks of the SPIRIT (intent) of the law and the LETTERS of the law.
So, harmonizing these citations we come to the conclusion that God's laws (just like human laws) consist of 2 things the Intention (or spirit) and the letters ( or details). What Christ's death abolished was the letters. But, the intention of God's laws as written in the OT remains forever
It's like human laws actually.
And, hey please judge laws according to the standards at the time they were made to apply not centuries later. Even human laws recognize this dictum.
Finally, you should believe me. I am not Governor for nothing. See in my wisdom I was able to wash my hand from blood guilt. Damn, my twin brod he got me into trouble for a mere 30 pcs of silver.
Laughingly yours,
Gov. Pilate.

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NOT JULIUS
Member (Idle past 4496 days)
Posts: 219
From: Rome
Joined: 11-29-2006


Message 16 of 303 (367563)
12-03-2006 1:14 PM
Reply to: Message 15 by PurpleTeddyBear
12-03-2006 11:06 AM


Re: Did Christ abolish the laws in OT
Hi Purple,
You are taxing too much old Pilate's brain. :=). Anyway, here is a possible talk between Mom & Kid, an 8 year old.
Mom: Kid, you must eat 3x a day to be healthy.
Kid: Got it Mom, eat 3x a day to be healthy.
Then the kid got sick (possibly too fat) and on advice of the doctor, the kid has to omit his dinner.
Mom: Kid, don't eat your dinner for the next 3 days according to Doctor.
Kid: (Sobbing). Mom, you lied! You told me to eat 3x a day.
Mom: Kid, I'll never lie to you. I want you to be HEALTHY But, the doctor said, that to be healthy, you have to eat 2x day only. Your quite overweight.
Analysis: Mom's INTENT was for kid to be HEALTHY. The implementation ( the letter of mom's law) changed--from 3x a day to 2x a day.

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NOT JULIUS
Member (Idle past 4496 days)
Posts: 219
From: Rome
Joined: 11-29-2006


Message 18 of 303 (367654)
12-04-2006 12:14 PM
Reply to: Message 17 by PurpleTeddyBear
12-04-2006 11:41 AM


Re: Did Christ abolish the laws in OT
Hi Purple Teddy,
So, God is the Mother - right? The proud always concerned and loving parent? Who is the Doctor? Or is Jesus the Mother, I the child and God the doctor?
I respect your way of understanding things and your beliefs.
Gov. Pilate

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