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johnfolton 
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Message 46 of 49 (373657)
01-02-2007 10:12 AM
Reply to: Message 42 by iceage
01-01-2007 7:06 PM


Re: Evolutionary black energy?
"Evolutionist" do not speak of "black energy".
Actually it appears the cosmoslogists speak of dark energy to explain the increased expansion of space.
God explains in the book of Job that he is able to loosen the bands (expand space) or tighten the bands (shrink space) kjv job 38:31 thus God is in control of every direction in respect to the spreading out of the heavens kjv job 9:8-10.
God asks the question can thou guide Arcturus with his sons kjv job 38:32. Cosmologists appear to be saying the galaxies are not moving but that space is expanding. Is space expanding or is it being repositioned.
If space was only expanding between galaxies how come some are moving towards each other. Is this evidence that the galaxies themselves are moving thru space or is it evidence that space is also able to shrink.
If nothing can expand or shrink then that would certainly be something however the creator its said: He alone is responsible for the spreading out of the heavens.

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Message 47 of 49 (373663)
01-02-2007 10:29 AM
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01-02-2007 10:12 AM


Re: Evolutionary black energy?
If space was only expanding between galaxies how come some are moving towards each other. Is this evidence that the galaxies themselves are moving thru space or is it evidence that space is also able to shrink.
The former - the galaxies do have their own small-scale motion, but on the large-scale it is largely negligible against the background expansion of space. Essentially, galaxies within (super)clusters will have some random motion with respect to each other, but the (super)clusters of galaxies are being carried by the expansion of space. This is why Andromeda, our sister galaxy, is coming straight for us and will one day collide with the Milky Way!

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johnfolton 
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Message 48 of 49 (374907)
01-06-2007 12:18 PM
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01-01-2007 7:02 PM


Re: In summary....
The Galaxies are not actually moving, the space between them is simply stretching/expanding (General Relativity). Concerns of violating light speed only apply to objects travelling relatively in inertial frames (Special Relativity). There is no violation.
Why can not light be considered an object travelling in an relatively inertial frame with only variances of the Cashmir effects on light in respect to expanding space and local space.
If space is expanding then the light wave itself being a property of space has then too been stretched by nothings expansion (Cashmir effect) increasing its speed based on its increased speed thru the expansion as if nothing had expanded.
Is this why general relativity is believed not to of been violated in that light is being stretched in respect to distance is not a contradiction to special relativity expressed in normal space in our own solar system.
Then when light arrives to the galaxies if the nothing within space is being contracted then the light wave too should shrink in respect to the contraction of nothing (Cashmir effect) being a property of space.
It appears to me that light is violating special relativity off distance but agree upon re-entering our solar system it appears that special relativity has not been violated.
If nothing can be expanded or contracted then that is certainly something however its said: That God alone spreadeth out the heavens.
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Message 49 of 49 (380410)
01-27-2007 9:06 AM


jesus is coming
a bird appeared same time as thousands fell from the sky. I spoke with it and I know the future. I have been given 2 date's. one a natural disaster and the other when the people's perception of jesus. I am not religous but have witnessed magic. I also have been shown how my whole life I was creating evidence. I cannot be discredited. What awaits is amazing. I am even getting e-mails and was directed here. I have video, I have photo, I have sound evidence. I have the bird of truth in the freezer. I have delibratley through time left an impression with so many people of my abilitie's but without knowing. I am trying the media but they don't seem to believe me. This is history. and its this year please help

  
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