Sorry about my late reply, have been a bit distracted.
Phat writes:
Are we basicaly talking about the difference between communion and the loss of subject/object distinction between ourselves and God?
One who seriously and actively seeks God beyond the constraints of church or conflicting authorities seeks communion beyond tradition. Any complete loss of subject/object distinction would require a perfect knowledge of God and Nature, an impossibility.
A King has subjects. John Spong has a differing view of Christ, God, and humanity:
Spinoza is about democracy, equality, and knowledge, not royalty, deference, and willful ignorance.
By the same token, communion is an action of God. Does this imply that communion cannot occur inside and/or within human history?
The prayer for unity with God---why would it be necessary in context of John17:26? Even Spong seems to imply a subject/object distinction between Jesus and God. Does the same implication exist for humanity?
I'm not completely sure what you mean here, please feel free to elaborate.
Clearly, despite the dualism, Christians seek a unity with God. Perhaps instead of often cursing themselves as fallen, they should start by looking within for the sake of an honest assessment.
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