I will read your links when I have time later, they sound interesting.
Rob writes:
But your right really, no-one can seek refuge in science.
No I said that religion cannot seek refuge in "spooky" Quantum Mechanics. I did not say we should seek refuge in science. You twist my meaning around.
Rob writes:
We just have to admit that we are terribly mistaken.
But we can't have that can we iceage? You know your not wrong.
I make no claims of infallibility. I know I am often wrong.
Furthermore I have no problem admitting I don't know and cannot even know the full nature of reality. I accept the uncertainty and mystery.
It takes humility to say, "I don’t know." On the other hand, "true believers" who paradoxically include humility as part of their religion, are reluctant to admit that they don’t know, and make aggressive proclamations of knowing the truth.
Such self-serving certainty of knowing things you cannot know, opposes humility.