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obvious Child Member (Idle past 4115 days) Posts: 661 Joined: |
Let's deal with the another related problem.
How long can plants survive submerged is brine much less after when the soil has been saturated with salt? How long can the bacteria and other organisms in the soil that allow much of the vegetation we see today to live survive submerged?
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obvious Child Member (Idle past 4115 days) Posts: 661 Joined: |
Of course.
I'm under the impression that much of the vegetation we see today is dependent upon the organisms that live in the soil. These organisms produce a efficent and rapid decomposition of organic matter, which is then used by vegetation. Without these organisms, plant life can't exist in the amounts we see today. A flood of such porportions would invariably wipe out these organisms, therefore reducing the colonization speed of the vegetation necessary to support a food pyramid which obviously has huge implications for a flood's probability.
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obvious Child Member (Idle past 4115 days) Posts: 661 Joined: |
But how do they get around the short term problems? Let's just ASSUME that Noah managed to get two of every herbivore on board. The necessary direct post flood food requirements would be huge. Plus many species such as Koalas and Giraffes only eat a specific type of leaf, usually a older leaf from specific types of plants. The time table here doesn't make sense. If the flood wiped out the soil organisms and the plants could somehow grow in a salted Earth situtation, how could they grow so fast and produce the right kind of foliage to sustain a large and varied herbivore population?
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obvious Child Member (Idle past 4115 days) Posts: 661 Joined: |
Are you forgetting that few perennial plants can survive in salt water? Pray tell, how are they suppose to grow in soil saturated with salt?
quote: Again you apparently have no understanding of what salt does to plant growth. And you are clearly ignoring that being extendedly submerged in brine water kills virtually all plants. No live root = No method of duplication.
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obvious Child Member (Idle past 4115 days) Posts: 661 Joined: |
quote: Are you insane? Do you have any concept of what osmosis is much less equilibrium? You're not even rational. You don't even make sense. Elevation wouldn't prevent the rapid mixing of salt and fresh water, especially if the fresh water came from rain.
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obvious Child Member (Idle past 4115 days) Posts: 661 Joined: |
Are you seriously suggesting it only rained over the continents and that no osmosis occured? That for a whole fricken year that the salt content didn't reach a equilibrium?
This is borderline insane.
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obvious Child Member (Idle past 4115 days) Posts: 661 Joined: |
Wow. You actually are suggesting that it rained only over the continents.
I'm leaving others who can deal with delusionality to deal with you.
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obvious Child Member (Idle past 4115 days) Posts: 661 Joined: |
It would appear so. Wow. I've met my share of creationists but this guy takes the cake for insanity.
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obvious Child Member (Idle past 4115 days) Posts: 661 Joined: |
If that was true then we should see fossils of the same kind of animal with very different digestive tracts. Specifically the older types fossilized in one giant strata and all of the newer types above them. Funny how that isn't found anywhere.
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obvious Child Member (Idle past 4115 days) Posts: 661 Joined: |
Oh so very true. I've done this even with small hardy, woody evergreens and a fair number of them don't survive the first month even with fertilizer, lots of water, store bought soil and other significent care. If those kinds of plants with huge amount of labor can't survive in store bought soil, the idea of large woody trees repopulation this way without aid is truly insane.
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obvious Child Member (Idle past 4115 days) Posts: 661 Joined: |
Goddidit, Goddidit!
Is it just me or does that automatically put someone on the bottom of the food chain?
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obvious Child Member (Idle past 4115 days) Posts: 661 Joined: |
quote: Which lends evidence to the idea that Creationism, literal that is, cannot be argued on its ow merits and derives its validity from the alleged problems of Evolution. Of course if the sky is not orange, is it therefore pink!
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obvious Child Member (Idle past 4115 days) Posts: 661 Joined: |
And they turned on their recessive infrared genes that allow them to convert infared into food as the waters above them were so murky normal light couldn't filter through? Or they magically turned on their genes which allowed them to function like deep sea coral feeding off decaying organic material?
MAGIC!!!!
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obvious Child Member (Idle past 4115 days) Posts: 661 Joined: |
Fat chance. I have yet to meet a creationist that can argue their beliefs on their own merits. I've run into a few who admit they cannot.
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obvious Child Member (Idle past 4115 days) Posts: 661 Joined: |
has anyone noticed that creatiowiki has stopped the registration of new members? Literal creationism is based on lies. Furthermore, it would seem that its community KNOWS this. A organization or set of organizations trying to hide something engages in behavior that limits or stops discussion with outside sources. We've seen this with gov'ts, with corporations with small groups of people. If they were open to discussion, they wouldn't try to cut off discussion with people in the areas of the subject.
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