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Author Topic:   A Logical account of creation
jjsemsch
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Message 31 of 173 (395436)
04-16-2007 2:04 PM
Reply to: Message 28 by Nuggin
04-16-2007 1:37 PM


Re: Theistic evolution
The issues with Creationism taken as fact are legion.
Then I'm sure it wouldn't be a problem for you to give even one example.

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Message 32 of 173 (395438)
04-16-2007 2:09 PM
Reply to: Message 27 by jjsemsch
04-16-2007 1:32 PM


Re: Theistic evolution
I hope in time you’ll realize that God and His Word can be trusted.
But I do trust GOD's word. GOD wrote the word we see as the Universe. Man wrote the Bible.
Russel Humphries Science Fiction is, I must admit, fun to read. But it requires a willing suspension of belief.
There is simply NO evidence to support any such nonsensical fiction.

Aslan is not a Tame Lion

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Nuggin
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Message 33 of 173 (395440)
04-16-2007 2:37 PM
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04-16-2007 2:04 PM


Re: Theistic evolution
You want 1 issue with Creationism?
Neanderthals
How can an entire race of people exist and die out all before the creation of the world 6 thousand years ago?

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Nuggin
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Message 34 of 173 (395441)
04-16-2007 2:40 PM
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04-16-2007 1:56 PM


Re: Theistic evolution
The most common polystrate fossils are tree trunks.
Got some pictures?

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Nuggin
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Message 35 of 173 (395443)
04-16-2007 2:45 PM
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04-16-2007 1:56 PM


Re: Theistic evolution
Whereas the dimensions found in Genesis 6:15 make an extremely stable boat.
Well stable or not, boat can only hold so much cargo. Go ahead and build an arc, load it with 6 elephants, 6 hippos, 6 giraffes, 6 rhinos, 6 water buffalo, 6 lions, 6 bison, 6 giant ground sloths, 6 t-rexs, etc, etc, etc.
Screw having to feed the animals, or keeping them from eatting one another. Just deal with the metric tonage of 6 of every "kind" of animal that's ever existed - that little dingy is gonna sink like a stone.

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Message 36 of 173 (395449)
04-16-2007 3:00 PM
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04-16-2007 1:56 PM


Re: Theistic evolution
jjsemsch writes:
Unfortunately because we have differing axioms I’m sure we will continue to disagree.
It's not so much about your "differing axioms". It's more about your unwillingness/inability to back up your points with facts.
Don't just list off a hundred topics and then ignore the rebuttals.
Why not pick a PRATT (Point Refuted A Thousand Times) and ride it down to the ground?
Pick a topic and give us your best argument.

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jjsemsch
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Message 37 of 173 (395455)
04-16-2007 4:16 PM
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04-16-2007 2:40 PM


Re: Theistic evolution
This is OFF topic in this thread. Please take it to a new thread if needed. Do not respond here.
Got some pictures?
You can do a Google or Yahoo search as easy as I can, but sure here ya go!
Polystrate Fossils:
Edited by AdminNosy, : Topic warning

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jjsemsch
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Message 38 of 173 (395457)
04-16-2007 4:29 PM
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04-16-2007 2:37 PM


Re: Theistic evolution
How can an entire race of people exist and die out all before the creation of the world 6 thousand years ago?
Simple answer they didn’t. What are claimed to be Neanderthals are descendants of Adam. There was no death before Adam sinned, so no one and nothing died before that.
If you asked me for the top 20 "biggest problems" with Genesis creationism, I don't think "light travel time" would be on the list.
So, what are the top 20 “biggest problems” with Genesis Creationism?

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jjsemsch
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Message 39 of 173 (395460)
04-16-2007 4:40 PM
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04-16-2007 2:45 PM


Re: Theistic evolution
Well stable or not, boat can only hold so much cargo. Go ahead and build an arc, load it with 6 elephants, 6 hippos, 6 giraffes, 6 rhinos, 6 water buffalo, 6 lions, 6 bison, 6 giant ground sloths, 6 t-rexs, etc, etc, etc.
Screw having to feed the animals, or keeping them from eatting one another. Just deal with the metric tonage of 6 of every "kind" of animal that's ever existed - that little dingy is gonna sink like a stone.
So how big was Noah's ark and how many animals were on it? I'll give you a hint you can start by replacing your 6's above with 2's. Except in the case where 7 "clean" animals were on board, but those were very few. I'm glad you included T Rex because he and all other dinosaurs were on the ark as well. That’s because they were land animals, all land animals were created on day 6 and all land animals were on the ark.

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Message 40 of 173 (395461)
04-16-2007 4:45 PM
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04-16-2007 4:16 PM


Off Topic Here!
Polystrate fossils are NOT on topic in this thread.
Please read over Message 1 and if you need to open another thread to continue the discussion.
Your information on polystrate fossils (like your other information) is sourced from those who deliberately lie to you.

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Nuggin
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Message 41 of 173 (395472)
04-16-2007 5:50 PM
Reply to: Message 38 by jjsemsch
04-16-2007 4:29 PM


Re: Theistic evolution
I'd be happy to provide such a list - only in a different thread, as we are starting to hijack this one.
Go ahead and start up a thread, I'll meet you there shortly

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Nuggin
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Message 42 of 173 (395474)
04-16-2007 6:02 PM
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04-16-2007 4:40 PM


Re: Theistic evolution
Except in the case where 7 "clean" animals were on board
Am I wrong to assume that "clean" animals here is similiar to kosher? Meaning that pigs would not be clean but cattle would?
T Rex because he and all other dinosaurs were on the ark as well
Okay, glad you agree we've got 2 of every dinosaur. You've also got 2 of every animal from the mega-faunal - which predates creation by a good 60,000 years, but what the hey.
So, 2 wooly mammoth, 2 wooly rhino, 2 giant ground sloth, 2 giant elk, 2 baluchitherium, 2 glypodons, etc etc etc.
Hell, I don't think you could make an arc that could hold 2 of every animal alive today - leaving off the extinct animals completely.

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jjsemsch
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Message 43 of 173 (395674)
04-17-2007 11:30 AM
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04-16-2007 5:50 PM


Problems with Genesis Creation
This is my first proposed new topic, so I don't know if I did it right. The topic is "Problems with Genesis Creation". How do you bump someone and all that other fun stuff?
Edited by jjsemsch, : Changed title to Problems with Genesis Creation

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Message 44 of 173 (434864)
11-17-2007 8:32 PM


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Message 45 of 173 (444032)
12-27-2007 9:17 PM


The only logical account for creation is science itself that people try to use to debunk creation.The big bang is a big dud already because if you realy think matter,time,and space could have came into existence from nonexistence then you beleive more things that arent true than anyone on earth.

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