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arachnophilia Member (Idle past 1365 days) Posts: 9069 From: god's waiting room Joined: |
hey ray, how's the book coming? i'm looking forward to reading it.
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arachnophilia Member (Idle past 1365 days) Posts: 9069 From: god's waiting room Joined: |
hush hush dr a, we will have to wait and see.
as for the obvious question, absence of evidence is not evidence of absence, right?
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arachnophilia Member (Idle past 1365 days) Posts: 9069 From: god's waiting room Joined: |
After reading it you will be enraged and I am looking forward to it. i am quite looking forward to it myself, ray. will you post it online somewhere, or are you actually publishing?
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arachnophilia Member (Idle past 1365 days) Posts: 9069 From: god's waiting room Joined: |
all transmissions for an offspring are via the seed. "seed" can have two (closely related) meanings:
That evolution does not consider the seed relevent to an offspring is abject denial of the first recording of a scientific equation. this statement is utter nonsense. first you have (again) used a word as if it is somehow independent (or opposite) from its definition. how would eevolution possibly fail to consider offspring relevant to offspring? that's anti-tautological. and of course evolution realizes that sperm is an integral part of making offspring.
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arachnophilia Member (Idle past 1365 days) Posts: 9069 From: god's waiting room Joined: |
Will contain the role of the seed, and that Genesis contains the first scientific equation? i am unaware of what the contents of ray's book will be. perhaps mr. martinez can illuminate the matter for us? but i suspect we will have to wait and see when (if) it is published.
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arachnophilia Member (Idle past 1365 days) Posts: 9069 From: god's waiting room Joined: |
joe, one forum member to another, don't tempt the mods. you've been having a run of suspensions recently, and it certainly is no credit to creationists and fundamentalists that they can't seem follow the rules of civilized debate.
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arachnophilia Member (Idle past 1365 days) Posts: 9069 From: god's waiting room Joined: |
read the op.
describe and discuss what the method creationists use for research -- if indeed creationists do research -- and how it is similar to or differs from the scientific method. as a creationist, you should probably be adding information about the procedures used by yourself or prominent creationists for arriving at "the truth."
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arachnophilia Member (Idle past 1365 days) Posts: 9069 From: god's waiting room Joined: |
That's where what's where? your statement lacks a specified subject -- there's a pronoun but no antecedant.
you get evidence of the 'seed', representing transmissions of life forms - ignored by atheists; please explain what this has to do with the topic, what exaclty you mean by "seed," and how the creationist method (whatever it is) does not ignore this (whatever it is) and how the "atheist" scientific method does.
that 'kind' represents an evidential proof what separates humans from all other life forms this statement lacks a preposition somewhere. should that be "of what separates... " possibly? please explain how you are using the term "kind" in quotes, and how such a word represents a difference, in regards to the bible (where it is applied to many different, uh, kinds of things including humans AND animals AND plants), or science, or the creationist method.
I call it selective atheism, call what "selective atheism?" when are atheists being selective about believing in god? do they believe in god at some times, but not others? or for some reasons, but not others? how is atheism particularly relevent to the scientific method?
and slight of hand science. I'm not fooled. what is slight of hand? what do you feel is being "palmed" away? please don't feel the grammar-nitpicks are quibbles designed to distract from any point you might. i honestly cannot figure out what you are trying to say. it seems to you have become somewhat accustomed to posting pure unadulterated nonsense. not in terms of content or points being argued, but in terms of simply stringing together gibberish and failing to elaborate on the specifics of yoru argument. please elaborate.
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arachnophilia Member (Idle past 1365 days) Posts: 9069 From: god's waiting room Joined: |
This is clever idiocy, not a reference to grammar correction by you. "clever idiocy." i shall have to remember that one. no, i honestly cannot figure out what you are trying to say.
Lower your pupils to 6 0'clock and you may notice it is a response to someone else, which indicates what is being responded to. negative.
quote: you replied to my message.
Correct me in grammer and logic and your own risk. i wasn't trying to correct you, i was trying to decipher you. your arguments are nonsensical.
Seed related to creation (whatever that is!) methodolgy. how?
It is best defined by first acknowledging it and placing it in the preamble whenever you mention evolution. aknowledgement is not a definition. and neither is your argument. and... what? what exactly should we be discussing before we discuss evolution? please explain what it is, and how it relates to evolution. pretend i'm a child; start from the beginning. i'm not saying this to be mocking -- i just want to know what the heck you're talking about. you seem to be going off on something assuming we know what you mean. we don't. well, i don't, at least. please explain.
Selective refers to omission of what you don't like, and inclusion of what you like. please explain what this concept is, and how atheism (or evolution, or whatever you're arguing against) excludes it.
Yes, now I will wait for you to ask me to define 'seed' if you expect it, why not include it in your preamble? after all, one of the scientific method's first steps is to define the terms under discussion. this does not appear to suit creationism, which by your arguments seem to be more about red herrings and obfuscation than clarity.
because its listing in genesis cannot be understood by those prefessing science you mean "professing?" and so far the only who has failed to demonstrate understanding of genesis is you. rather consistently, as a matter of fact -- you seem to opt for reading it like some sort of bizarre code instead of what's actually on the page. but hey, i think we have worked out step 1 in the creationist method. "genesis."
seed is far more complicated than retroviruses! please point me to the book, chapter, and verse where this concept is discussed in its full complexity? failing that, perhaps you can point me to a published creationist paper that discusses the topic? or failing that, perhaps a religious apologetic, or jewish midrash? or failing that, anything at all about the matter?
Anyways, to cut to the chase scene and escape the selective naivity display, a retraction is in order of those who cannot understand what a seed refers to (whatever that means!), no, perhaps an explanation is in order. either make an argument, or don't. if you're not willing to explain your terms, you can't simply plant your flag and declare victory. you haven't won anything, or convinced anyone. you've just made yourself to be your own hero in your own mind. perhaps this is the creationist method? confuse, distract, declare victory, and leave? hey, we've seen that a few times here, after all.
why genesis refers to 'kind' and gives humans a correct category, please explain what you mean by "correct category" and how you feel the term "kind" is being used in the book of genesis.
those who decried about lobsters while ignoring where medicine comes from medicine comes from science. perhaps this fact has been lost on you. it's a been a long time since "avoid eating lobsters" was considered medicine.
and not least, those who deem my responsa off topic oh, you mean the religious moderator who told you stay on topic. yeah, i'm sure anastasia is out to get you.
in a thread that wants to discuss methodology of creation! no, the methodology of creationism. how the belief itself functions.
Don't be shy - unless you want to disgrace science. actual, questioning is a rather basic scientific approach. the way i see it, my posts are a decent demonstration of a scientific methodology -- questioning, and not presuming to know facts from the outset. yours are a decent demonstration of the creationist methodology -- having the truth from the beginning, but it's a secret, and you can't tell anyone, so the goal is to distract and obfuscate. actually, you're the one that shouldn't be shy. you seem to be quite secretive about what you actually mean. why not explain your terms, and justify your arguments? Edited by arachnophilia, : typo
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