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Author Topic:   Behe Bit It (Michael Behe on "The Colbert Report")
Archer Opteryx
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Message 106 of 152 (415016)
08-07-2007 5:49 PM
Reply to: Message 6 by Hyroglyphx
08-03-2007 6:55 PM


Re: No problem at all
It's fun to watch Rob and NJ 'defend' Behe by conceding the point.
NJ: No matter what Behe says, whether he tries to accomodate the opposition or not, he will inevitably be in the same boat in their eyes.
You bet. And here's the boat: Behe wants a nonscientific point of view accepted as science.
Behe knows it doesn't qualify. He admitted in the Dover trial that ID has the same claim to scientific validity as astrology. He admitted that the definition of 'science' would have to be rewritten for ID to get in the door--and that astrology would be walking in on its arm.
You've stated exactly what Barbara Forrester means when she calls ID 'Creationism's Trojan Horse.' It is a nonscientific proposition dressed up in "accommodating language" in the hope no one will notice the difference between scientific patter and scientific substance.
Stephen knew the difference. He smoked the pseudoscience out of its horse.
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All species are transitional.

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Archer Opteryx
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Message 118 of 152 (415100)
08-08-2007 7:19 AM
Reply to: Message 70 by ICANT
08-05-2007 3:34 PM


ID in Rhythm
Ah, the two-step. An oldie but a goodie.
First we're told a 'controversy' exists among scientists. When it's established that none does, we're told a 'monopoly' exists.
Then repeat.
The cure for both? Teaching religion in science classes, of course. All roads lead to Rome.

Fundimentals, fundimentals,
At last they've got you
On the map
With a new tune
A wedgie blue tune
With a flagellic snap!
You may not be able
To think or teach
Research, publish, or even preach
If you ain't got science
On your side
Just grab a panda
Stroll and stride
New ID! New ID!
Made by fundimentals!
Some dance, some prance
But nothing makes you move your pants
Like new ID, new ID
Gee, how you can shuffle!
Every step you do
Leads to something new
Man, I'm telling you
It's a how-you-do
YEC, OEC
Will be a back number
But new ID
That new ID
That dance is surely a comer!
Sometime
You'll dance to it one time
That dance is here to play
Made in Dover PA!
Music Rights Management | Round Hill Music
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Archer
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Archer Opteryx
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Message 145 of 152 (415352)
08-09-2007 4:52 PM
Reply to: Message 135 by ICANT
08-08-2007 10:10 PM


off-topic request
Just a quick request, ICANT.
The plural for scientist is formed by adding an s, like so:

scientists

People in some regions of the US do compromise the last sts when speaking. But it's no great trouble to spell the plural correctly when writing. It helps make your meaning clear.
When you discuss science classrooms and use the word 'scientist' (singular) I instantly take this to mean the teacher of the class. But that's rarely what you mean. You more often mean a viewpoint maintained by scientists generally, but it takes a moment for me to figure this out.
We see all kinds of writing here, to be sure, and I know I can be a one-man typo manufacturing plant. But would you mind very much?
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