what is a scientific theory of creation

Well, a scientific theory of creation is different when you ask different people. Different people have different defintions of what a scientific theory of creation really is.For example, YOUR definition of a scientific theory of creation is probably as follows.1. An impossibility
2. A lame attempt that a Creationist may propose (which is clearly wrong)
3. A terrific way to give yourself leverage in a debate because YOU think it is impossible and when someone shows you one you simply say it is not scientifically correct.You are simply blind and not looking for a Creation model. I look forward to your insulting reply.

Well apparently everyone except Quetzal missed mine in the "why creation science isn't science" category. Unless Ibhandli thouroughly destroys my model, he is in no position to claim that he has never been presented one.

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Originally posted by lbhandli:
Your 'model' wasn't a model. It was two claims that completely avoided anything unique and testable. Of course, if you would like to stop whining and post it again it can, again, be pointed out why it was useless.

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While I'm simply flattered that you hold such a high opinion of my efforts, I still don't see much attempt to thoroughly show why my claims are way off base.I also find it interesting that a few posts back, TrueCreation asked for some specifics. Seems to me nobody has offered him any. I would have to conclude that you don't WANT to see a theory of Creation because then your point would be refuted. It also might be of interest if you post your own theory so that TrueCreation or I could see exactly what your criterion is for a scientific theory. If you don't feel like spending your time doing this, so be it. It will only show even further that you have no real interest in hearing a scientific theory of Creation.

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[This message has been edited by Cobra_snake, 02-14-2002]

I believe what TrueCreation is asking is, do you want a flood model theory, a biological theory, a young-earth theory, etc. The concept of Creation science is too large to create an all-encompassing theory.

Great.... Now I have Quetzal, Mark, AND Ibhandli dismantling my theory! I'm screwed.

I read the entire article, front to back (I read it about a month ago when you last provided the link). However, I am somehow under the impression that the person who wrote this definition is not much of a supporter of Creation Science:"Those who claim to know empirical truth a priori (such as so-called scientific creationists) cannot be talking about scientific knowledge."Well the question is not whether or not this author thinks Creation science is science, the question is whether or not he is correct in his claim. First of all, I know of at least ONE evolutionist who changed his thinking to become a creationists (Gary Parker). I do realize that there are probably quite a few examples of Creationists changing to Evolutionists, but this simply does not matter, because the principal is the same. Also, I think the claim is unfair because I think many evolutionists start of with a bias towards a naturalistic point of view.I promise, I DID read the article and I DID find it fairly interesting.

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Originally posted by Dream Master:
I'm going to throw up here with so much debate

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creationism = 3000 year old fairytale
Evolution = Scientific method's greatest 19th century triumph

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lbhandli, why go through all the trouble?
Creationists will eventually die and the greater majority of intelligent people will perfect our theory of evolution to the point that no other is possible.

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It is actually curious to find that most creationist didn't have a very adecuate high school education and grab unto their idea for overwhelming stubborness to admit ignorance.

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ignorance is the main reason not a single creationist model is reasonably admittable to the higher orders of our civilization.

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[This message has been edited by Dream Master, 04-02-2002]

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Yeah, and most of us Creationists don't have very "adecuate" spelling either.