EvC Forum: Was the destruction of the twin towers scientifically possible on 9/11

There were pools of molten lava that did not cool completely for a few weeks. There were videos of lava spewing out of the side of the building before its collapse.

Molten lava? Molten lava is a magma from beneath the earth's crust. I think you are confusing terms.

I'd also like to see the alleged video of lava burning for weeks.

Think of how hot it needs to be for a steel beam to break. We have stoves that are made of steel, and we can run it all day long and it won't melt.

Yes, which is an indication of how hot it was. What the Trade Centers were was a class D fire which happen all the time in Naval fleets. Its extremely difficult to stop a Class D fire. Its literally almost impossible. And what causes these Class D fires is powerful fuels like JP-5. It happens a lot. What sailors often end up having to do is to jettison the planes into the ocean, because once metal is burning, its too difficult to put the fire out in time without jeopardizing the entire ship.

Your analogy of frying pans just doesn't match up with the sheer intensity of heat produced by many fuels. I don't think you are appreciating that fact.

I believe it was due to demolition.

Okay, lets think about this objectively for a moment. Do you have any idea what the collusion factor must have been to pull off a stunt of this magnitude?

There were about, what, 4,000 employees in both Trade Centers? And nobody noticed strange men wiring their building with explosives? I assume you understand that a project such as this would have taken weeks to accomplish.

Seriously, try to imagine your scenario realistically. It is so far beyond implausible. You are saying that not only did no one know that people were wiring the Trade Centers, but also that the FAA and the virtually the entire Government was duped in to thinking that the planes were hijacked by terrorists.

Who then was the culprit? I mean, I assume you've seen the footage where planes actually plow through the Trade Centers, right? So where do the explosives factor in, where the explosives did not detonate prematurely due to the fire from the aircraft?

In controlled demolition when explosives act upon the buildings it creates a force great enough to pulverize concrete into dust.

Tons of concrete and steel can pulverize anything too.

You can watch the movie 911 revisited. It is worth the hour and half. It could change your whole perspective on things.

I have seen it as well as a few others. I think it only changes the minds of extremely gullible people who have a general fascination for conspiracy to begin with.

First watch a video of a plane crashing into the building. It dosen't flinch a inch. These are also huge steel beams we are talking about it's impossible for a a plane to cut every single beam to the point where the whole building collapses. The bottom floors should still be intact.

Why should the bottom floors still be intact? I don't think either of us need an engineering degree to know that tons upon tons of falling steel can, will, and did destroy the entire building.

Penn and teller is just a comedian, you should watch some professors give lectures on this subject.

Yes, they are, but have you seen the whacko's that premiere on these conspiracy video's? Again, Occam's Razor is not on your side. What you are describing is based purely on circumstantial evidence. This feat is so nearly impossible that entertaining the notion is absurd to the point of being laughable.

Based on the way a building fell, certain people have erected in its place a fantastic story to suit what they desire in their hearts-- controversy.

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