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Vacate
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Message 73 of 147 (420289)
09-07-2007 9:34 AM
Reply to: Message 71 by ElOne
09-07-2007 9:04 AM


A miracle is an event that appears inexplicable by the laws of nature and so is held to be supernatural in origin. Before the advent of cloning, replicating another life would have been considered a miracle. Now through advanced technology it is no longer a miracle.
Seems to me that this pretty much invalidates much of the bible. I don't really have a problem with adding a twist to a good story, but it does present some problems for believers don't you think?
It doesnt invalidate Jesus; his message is that there is a better way.
He reminds me of Spock, relation perhaps?
**abe**
When you look at the Hebrew Scriptures using todays wod bank, a whole different message emerges.
What message would you predict is correct? Did they write the bible with the intent to be correctly interpreted with modern english? Why didn't they change the text back then if everyone was reading the bible and saying "God is an alien who rides flying chariots from mars"
I am with Jar, it just seems to be more logical. It says what it means.
**abe**
Edited by Vacate, : Hebrew scripture predicts God is green
Edited by Vacate, : Formatting

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Vacate
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Message 78 of 147 (420296)
09-07-2007 10:24 AM
Reply to: Message 76 by ElOne
09-07-2007 10:03 AM


I would say the interpretation with modern language distinctions would be closer to the true meaning than and older one; "for todays believers".
But then in a sense aren't you saying that the true message of the bible changes along with the evolution of language?
I agree with you in the idea that had there been a UFO in those times they would have ascribed it to miracles. However, if you are saying that this is in fact what the bible is saying - what else is incorrect? How much of the bible is open for UFO minded interpetation?
It doesnt invalidate the other translations because they were correct for the language of the time
True, but it does invalidate the writers interpretation of events he does not understand.

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Vacate
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Message 82 of 147 (420308)
09-07-2007 11:55 AM
Reply to: Message 80 by ElOne
09-07-2007 11:17 AM


Aliens and the flood
The Bible also says all will be understood before the end. Nothing is incorrect. It's meaning is better understood.
Do you have any proof that we are near "the end", if not then how do you know that this language, at this time is conductive to a correct interpretation? (or a better understood interpretation of meaning)
Reread Exodus with UFO's in mind.
Better yet read about the flood with UFO's in mind!!
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Seeing the unfortunate results of his experiment Emperor Plptn beams up Noah and his family to a secure location in orbit near the small moon of Endor (Pronounced Moon in modern English)
“As you can see, my young apprentice, your friends have failed. Now witness the firepower of this fully ARMED and OPERATIONAL battle station!”
A relaxing voyage in a Virtual Reality simulator and a uneventful launch of the Genesis Torpedo and the world as we know it is devoid of flood evidence without “invalidating the other translations”
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Sounds like I am just making shit up, and I am.
Those earlier interpretations did what they were suppose to do, keep Faith alive, just as the newer interpretation will do the same
But are they stories that are meant to convey reality or just a method of keeping the faith? If its just a story than how can it become more true as the language evolves?
Oh - Try this if you are wondering how to get the quote boxes.
[qs]quote boxes are easy[/qs] and it becomes:
quote boxes are easy
You can also hit the "Peek" button on the bottom of peoples posts if you wonder what various codes they have used.
Sorry for the theft of your code Razd!

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Vacate
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Message 126 of 147 (421200)
09-11-2007 2:05 PM
Reply to: Message 116 by ElOne
09-11-2007 10:31 AM


Re: Aliens and the flood
They are not all going to be these "earth shaking" signs that cannot be mistaken. Some are going to be "subtle".
Of course some will be subtle, its kind of a necessity to look for the subtle clues when the earth shaking ones never take place. I remember on my dads farm when one chicken always followed the dogs around. It even slept with them. I was young, so I assumed the chicken was stupid, instead you suggest it was a message?
Last year a wildlife photographer in Africa witnessed a female lion that saved a young goat (lamb) when its mother had been killed.
Certainly an odd case.
The lioness protected the lamb from other lions for about two weeks before she was distracted and the lamb was killed.
What happened to the lioness? I mean, before one declares this a "mini miracle" I think it begs the question of the fitness of the lioness. Was this animal fit and healthy? Did it mate and produce offspring? Could it have been the lion equivalent of stupid?
Whether you like it or not it fullfills Scriptural Prophecy.
A prophecy was fulfilled and only one witness! Typical. Billions of people looking for answers and it comes when only one person was looking. It is also somewhat anticlimactic - The poor lamb goat kid got eaten.
no "distinction" between sheep or goat, just a member of a flock.
So what you are saying is back then such a fulfillment would make sense to someone who witnesses these mini-miracles, but a person today would see it as a simple oddity. You see, today we do make such distinctions.
The Bible also says all will be understood before the end. Nothing is incorrect. It's meaning is better understood.
Are you taking this statement back? You made it in message 80 and it does not seem to apply in this case. Does it only apply to aliens and not to lions who forget to eat goats?

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