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Author Topic:   My God versus Your God..Amen and Phat Only
Am5n 
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Message 2 of 18 (444564)
12-29-2007 9:29 PM


Yo PhaT, StarT iT uP HoMiE.

sincerely yours, Amen.

Edited by Amen., : got a new signature.


"Eli, Eli, lama sabachthani?"
[Matthew 27:46]

"He beholdeth all high things: he is a king over all the children of pride."
[JOB 41:34]

"You feel the last bit of breath leaving their body. You're looking into their eyes. A person in that situation is God!" -Ted Bundy


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Am5n 
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Message 4 of 18 (444831)
12-31-2007 2:08 AM


<{-My Past-}>
as you request Phat, here is a taste of my past.

When I was 1st brought into this world, I was cared for by a mother,father,and brother. I was raised to follow the beliefs of my parents, but I was not fully nurtured into Christianity by my parents.
As most religious families, I went to Boca Glades Baptist Church, thus I've always attended it with my family and friends. During my educational stage, I seemed to favor a president, this was the 1st President of the United States of America. George Washington is his name.

When I finally decided to learn more about this 1st President of which I favored so very much, I indeed found out that not he alone has the same beliefs as I. This was a great discovery for me, thus it also allowed my beliefs to flourish even more within time. It seems I found that History is a key to some religious beliefs. I believe in the past[unlike some who believe in the future of mankind].

If you haven't noticed Phat, I'm like most Christians who have a frustrating bitter beef with politics,laws, and well almost all of society together. I have a darker side, which I try to help remain hidden from others, but if so I'll explain it later if you'd like to hear about it.

I stand up for all that is good and right in the eyes of My God!
If I show anger when arguing my side of the argument, wither or not I try to show mercy for the person I'm facing off against, I do intend to weaken their foolishness and see if it has them running for the hills. In a religious argument against ones belief, each opponent may try to weaken each other to a point where 1 is so down on their defense, the other will decide to strike a final blow, therefor leaving this person helpless and wondering what is it he shall now believe in. I use to debate like that, but as I've grown up, I learned how to understand the real meaning of a Debate.

Well Phat thats somethings about my past, but if you want more, I'll indeed provide you with more. My next post will be about: My Present.
Which is about what I've been doing[religious wise]this year. :eek:

sincerely your, Amen.


"Eli, Eli, lama sabachthani?"
[Matthew 27:46]

"He beholdeth all high things: he is a king over all the children of pride."
[JOB 41:34]

"You feel the last bit of breath leaving their body. You're looking into their eyes. A person in that situation is God!" -Ted Bundy


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Am5n 
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Message 6 of 18 (444926)
12-31-2007 1:18 PM
Reply to: Message 5 by Phat
12-31-2007 8:36 AM


Re: <{-My Past-}>
Phat writes:

Do you believe that people are nurtured into Christianity?


indeed I do Phat. As long as I've been alive, thats how many religious families,communities,and organizations work. Its easy to nurture a child into ones own belief, but as I've somewhat explained already, it is indeed "only" that the parents have the right to nurture their children into a community of their own beliefs, though this may only be of my beliefs, wither or not the parents have the right to be the only ones who shall nurture the religious beliefs of their child.
Phat writes:

Interesting. So you say that George Washington was an inspiration for you?

Yes Sir Mr.Phat! I was indeed inspired by what George Washington did & accomplished.
Phat writes:

How so?


Well for example, lets look back on: July 9, 1755 The French and Indian War. As you may already know or probably should know about the Europeans "Warfare strategies", These strategies were really foolish.
"Quick, let your aim be certain and he dies," the chief commanded.
The warriors - a mix of Ottawa,Huron,and Chippewa tribes men leveled their rifles at the last officer on horseback. Round after round was aimed at this one man. Twice the officer's horse was shot out from under him. Twice he grabbed a horse left idle when a fellow officer had been shot down. Ten,twelve,thirteen rounds were fired by the sharpshooters. Still, the officer remained unhurt. The native warriors stared at him in disbelief. Their rifles seldom missed their mark. The chief suddenly realized that a mighty power must be shielding this man. "Stop firing" he commanded. "This one is under the special protection of the Great Spirit." A brave standing near by added, "I had seventeen clear shots at him.. and after all that could not bring him to the ground. This man was not born to be killed by a bullet." -Under God: Bulletproof, page 11.

Phat writes:

Keep your friends close, and your enemies closer.
Sun-tzu--Chinese general & military strategist (~400 BC)


I know that quote, its a very good quote too.

sincerely yours, Amen.

Edited by Amen., : No reason given.


"Eli, Eli, lama sabachthani?"
[Matthew 27:46]

"He beholdeth all high things: he is a king over all the children of pride."
[JOB 41:34]

"Wherefore if thy hand or thy foot offend thee, cut them off, and cast them from thee: it is better for thee to enter into life halt or maimed, rather than having two hands or two feet to be cast into everlasting fire."
[Matthew 18:8]
"And if thine eye offend thee, pluck it out, and cast it from thee: it is better for thee to enter into life with one eye, rather than having two eyes to be cast into hell fire."
[Matthew 18:9]


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Am5n 
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Message 9 of 18 (445729)
01-03-2008 4:39 PM
Reply to: Message 7 by Phat
01-01-2008 2:34 PM


Re: Every Breath You Take
Phat writes:

Let me ask you some questions, ok?


Okey dokey!

Phat writes:

1) Must a person be saved? If so, why? What exactly is it we are saved from?

Good question. A person is only to be saved from a world of confusion, its not a must, well unless your religious belief includes the knowledge of The spiritual Realm,Demonology,and knowing there is a Fiery kingdom, where many are going to be condemned to Eternal Damnation! But! if you or anyone else doesn't believe that.. well then it might not be a top priority to them... which leaves me to be :confused:

But as always, there seem to be Different groups apart of Christianity. Honestly.. I have nothing personal against The Catholic Community, but they really consider every baby in their community must be baptized[aka "Saved"], which you should already know that I was raised by 2 Baptist parents, but do you know the difference on how the The Baptist Church baptizes Christians and how The Catholic Church baptizes Christians?

Phat writes:

2) As a young Baptist kid, what is your mission in life according to you? To God? To your parents?


I've been pondering with that exact question for 2 yrs already.. but God is giving me a little bit at a time, so therefor I remain patient with God.

Phat writes:

BTW I saw your church website.


Oh really? I never saw your church website. :rolleyes:
Would you like me to?

Sincerely yours, Amen.

Edited by Amen., : No reason given.


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Am5n 
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Message 10 of 18 (445731)
01-03-2008 4:44 PM
Reply to: Message 8 by Phat
01-02-2008 6:39 AM


Re: Deal Or No Deal
Phat writes:

Just out of curiosity, did you use a search engine to find that link or is it a source of information that you previously used?


I was using wikipedia and was reading about their Definition of Christianity, then I clicked on a couple links and BOOM!:frazzled:
I stumbled upon that site an decided to use it for the Deal or No Deal Topic.

sincerely yours, Amen.

Edited by Amen., : No reason given.


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Am5n 
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Message 12 of 18 (448704)
01-14-2008 9:30 PM
Reply to: Message 11 by Phat
01-06-2008 11:41 AM


Re: Every Breath You Take
phat writes:

Is the Spirit of God in everyone or with everyone?


I consider the Spirit of God to be with or in anyone He choses.
phat writes:

Can a person lose their salvation?


I really don't know... can a person keep their salvation and be condemned to eternal damnation?
phat writes:

Is it more important to act all shiny happy religious all the time or is it more important to be real with your friends and the people you meet on the day to day?


God made me the way I am today, I don't believe a person should hide what they believe.

During my youthful years at school, I was bullied and the other boys called me a Fag, why? Because I treated all the women around me, alot better then my male peers. I never had a relationship with the opposite sex, though I never had a girl as my friend either.

moral to this story:
If people keep pushing you down, what else can you do about it? not much, just keep picking yourself up and keep on living for God.

sincerely yours, Amen.

Edited by Amen., : eh?


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Message 14 of 18 (449671)
01-18-2008 5:46 PM
Reply to: Message 13 by Phat
01-17-2008 6:34 PM


Re: Every Breath You Take
Phat writes:

I have let go of the idea that the earth is 6000 years old...or thereabouts. I suppose GOD could make it that way regardless of what scientific evidence suggests, but why would an Omnipotant Creator choose to fool us?

I'm sorry but, can you rephrase the question?

Phat writes:

Moreover....why is science a bad thing?


Science isn't a bad thing, it's actually a good thing, but it is wrong not to give God and Christianity the credit since the origin of science came only from God and Christianity.
Phat writes:

Is it not the best critical analysis that humans are capable of? Should we toss away our intellects and simply accept belief?


take a look at this link:http://www.columbia.edu/cu/augustine/a/science_origin.html
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