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Author Topic:   The impossibility of infinite ability..aka "god"
tesla
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Message 18 of 94 (450060)
01-20-2008 1:40 PM
Reply to: Message 15 by TheNaturalist
01-20-2008 1:17 PM


Re: Limiting God to materialism
distance = rate * time. correct? of course. and, therefore, if there is no time, otherwise time, in this equation, equals zero, then d=rt= zero. No distance is traveled unless time passes.
by my belief:
God is the pure singular energy that was before all things and created by faith it was.
nothing was before this energy, it just was. and nothing is outside it.
therefore: in its pure state before creation, time is only as relevant as it would decide it is.
being man, and not able to build a star system, or a galaxy, can only understand time from the point of view of its condition. therefore: what God can do, or cannot do, is limited only by what God decides he will do, or will not do.
that's my take, based on the definition i have observed.
Edited by tesla, : No reason given.

keep your mind from this way of enquiry, for never will you show that not-being is
~parmenides

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tesla
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Message 26 of 94 (450075)
01-20-2008 2:34 PM
Reply to: Message 24 by TheNaturalist
01-20-2008 2:24 PM


Re: Limiting God to materialism
ok, since you didn't understand my post, perhaps i am misunderstanding you.
unless you have a definition of God, you cannot hope to enter into a conversation on what God is capable of.
how do you define God?

keep your mind from this way of enquiry, for never will you show that not-being is
~parmenides

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tesla
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Message 33 of 94 (450102)
01-20-2008 3:31 PM
Reply to: Message 27 by TheNaturalist
01-20-2008 2:45 PM


Re: Limiting God to materialism
ok. i understand now i think. you don't believe in God.
time doesn't prove God is not, yet you want to tell people who do believe in God that their belief in his abilities is silly because time exists, which means that your trying to say because of time, there is no God?
ok..i confused myself.
I'm not sure your motive, but as already pointed out, God is defined by most as being everywhere.
i think this might help you understand the view, i call it, the publican and the scientist:
the publican and the scientist:
setting: a small hill outside a bustling city. two men are seated near a small tree, one is a publican, the other is a scientist.
publican: i wish it were possible to see God.
scientist: i see God all the time.
publican: what!? how can you say such a thing?
scientist: energy cannot be created or destroyed. that means all that i see has come from the very body of God.
publican: with all the filth, and sin and evils in the world, do you really think that God would want that as a part of his body?
scientist: i do not claim to know why God does what he does, i am simply making an observation.

keep your mind from this way of enquiry, for never will you show that not-being is
~parmenides

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tesla
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Message 92 of 94 (451828)
01-28-2008 7:20 PM
Reply to: Message 91 by Am5n
01-28-2008 1:50 PM


welcome back
welcome back amen i like your post. and agree with your points.
Do you honestly consider God to bow down before his own creation?
i hope that everyone would agree this would be silly.

keep your mind from this way of enquiry, for never will you show that not-being is
~parmenides

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tesla
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Message 94 of 94 (451866)
01-28-2008 11:03 PM
Reply to: Message 93 by Am5n
01-28-2008 10:57 PM


Re: welcome back
be of good cheer!
be strong of heart and pray for those that hate you, remember the words of christ when he says to love your enemies!
you have not been especially cordial, and for that who can say they always are? but anything anyone does against you, forgive them. because it is right by God as he has forgiven all who will accept him.
i will pray for you, that you will find peace in the goodness of our lord, and do many things in your time you have to add glory to God. do not seek your own glory, but the glory of God, and in that will you find pure joy.
peace and God be with you amen, as Gods will is, so be it.
-Tim Brown

keep your mind from this way of enquiry, for never will you show that not-being is
~parmenides

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