Evidence of design .... ?

Don't forget:Revise philosophy. Petition ultra-rightwing gov't officials to redefine science and alter public education in favor of faith-based education.Either way, I have liked all your posts mr Hambre. More power to you.------------------
holmes

RE 1):They also fail to mention that things like mousetraps
didn't get invented from scratch over night ... or that
the technologies for the common modern mousetrap were not
originally invented purely for use in a mousetrap but
were seen to be useful for that end product.

That's another good point. Even in made-made designs there is less 'creation' than the IDC'ers would have us believe. Would Behe seriously assert that the metal ore extracted from the ground, the tree chopped down and milled, and even the cheese fermented from animal milk, were all 'intended' to be used in mousetrap production?

Even more mundanely ... I don't believe that springs
were created with mousetraps in mind, rather someone tried
a sping loaded mousetrap, and found that it worked quite well
so they made some more ... that sounds quite natural selectioney
for a mechanical analogy

And if I recall correctly, if you look at the history of mousetraps, they follow an evolutionary process of adapting what came before rather than coming up with a radical new design. About the only thing "new" in mousetraps would be the use of a glue strip to fix the mouse to a single spot rather than the use of a mechanical device. There is no real difference between a trap that cages the mouse and one that snaps onto its neck...it's just a question of timing and how elaborate the mechanics are. They both function on the same principle of the mouse triggering a mechanical device to drop an object into a certain position.So does this mean that we can now say that even "intelligent design" uses evolution?------------------
Rrhain
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So does this mean that we can now say that even "intelligent design" uses evolution?

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Behe would insist that only IDC is allowed to use the mousetrap analogy. It's unfair of Darwinists to appropriate such devices and use them for our own purposes. It smacks of, you know, evolution.

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So does this mean that we can now say that even "intelligent design" uses evolution?

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Careful, you might kick off a whole new branch of 'Science'
.... 'Intelligent Evolution'!!!!