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Author Topic:   What evidence is needed to change a creationist
Buckfan328
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Message 109 of 144 (466222)
05-13-2008 5:19 PM
Reply to: Message 1 by Lithodid-Man
12-24-2007 3:33 AM


In short, no evidence would convince me otherwise, thus making me a maddeningly difficult person to argue with. I think a great deal of evidence favors Creation particularly abiogenesis and the lack of a consistent evolutionary fossil record so say the ability to produce life from non-life and a better explanation for the lack of a fossil record I would find to be very difficult to counter even if I felt bound by the biblical account.
Presently I think that unquestionably the genetic evidence is the most difficult for Creationists to answer particularly things like the apparent chromosomal fusion between two existing ape chromosomes to form a human chromosome. Interestingly at the same time, I think some of the work in master regulatory transcription factor genes offers a potential solution to a difficult problem for Creationists: how did we get such biological diversity in such a short period of time from the ark? I also find the dating methods to be difficult to deal with since I am a biologist who hates math and not a physicist. I have heard from creationist physicists who I trust that there are reasonable arguments to be made against it but I am essentially taking them at their word since one can only be an expert in so many topics.
Ultimately, science is fallible because scientists are fallible and I believe God's word to be infallible so when they seem to be in conflict I will of course go with the latter.

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Buckfan328
Junior Member (Idle past 5817 days)
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From: Ohio
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Message 110 of 144 (466224)
05-13-2008 5:27 PM
Reply to: Message 108 by Chiroptera
04-19-2008 7:01 PM


I like your post Chiroptera even though I am a Creationist. I also think that the idea that God could not only create the amazing creatures that we see on the earth today but could create creatures with the capacity for change and the mechanisms of natural selection to accomplish it that you mentioned to be a source of awe as well. Not just a wonderfully fit creature, but a creature with the genetic capacity to adapt over the generations to fit changing environmental conditions...thats amazing. So I agree if Creationists believe that we are in a "claustrophobic little universe in which nothing happens and nothing changes" then they are truly missing out. One little cell is amazing enough in its own right to consume hundreds of lifetimes of a person's study and wonder.

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