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Dave101
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Message 46 of 479 (469954)
06-08-2008 6:15 PM
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06-08-2008 6:09 PM


Re: Another boy with imaginary friends.
Check out the British Museum of History for many...

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Dave101
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Message 47 of 479 (469955)
06-08-2008 6:16 PM
Reply to: Message 46 by Dave101
06-08-2008 6:15 PM


Re: Another boy with imaginary friends.
Actually if I get another day off soon (1 in the last 21 days) I can compile a list of most of them and send them to you...

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bluegenes
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Message 48 of 479 (469956)
06-08-2008 6:18 PM
Reply to: Message 38 by Dave101
06-08-2008 5:59 PM


Re: Another boy with imaginary friends.
Dave101 writes:
I am not a Christian because I am stupid.
You mean it's coincidence?

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Brian
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Message 49 of 479 (469957)
06-08-2008 6:27 PM
Reply to: Message 45 by Dave101
06-08-2008 6:14 PM


Re: A Light at the End Of The Tunnel :-)
is (or was) a very popular teaching that man evolved from apes. (or monkeys).
Evolution doesn't claim this though, that's why I was asking.
A very famous evolutionist in Europe was asked why he holds onto this theory and his answer was "because if evolution is wrong then that means we are designed creatures by God and this would mean that we are morally responsible to that creator... and this to me is unthinkable".
Sounds a bit fictional this 'story', since any one clever enough to believe in evolution would be clever enough to know that these are not the only two options.
really did ask the monkey question simply because a guy at work, when I told him of this site asked me to ask that question because his wife wants to know...
Well, with you being a science graduate why didn't you tell them that no one claims humans evolved from monkeys.
Regarding the 5500 docs, I think that's lifted from a fundy website because it is a lie.
Re my theory, I'll explain later as it is nearly bedtime here, but it's along the lines of swapping one addiction for another, fueled by guilt.
Edited by Brian, : spelling

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Brian
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Message 50 of 479 (469958)
06-08-2008 6:30 PM
Reply to: Message 48 by bluegenes
06-08-2008 6:18 PM


Re: Another boy with imaginary friends.
Dave101 writes:
I am not a Christian because I am stupid.
You mean it's coincidence?
Think I just peed myself

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Dave101
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Message 51 of 479 (469959)
06-08-2008 6:31 PM
Reply to: Message 43 by DrJones*
06-08-2008 6:11 PM


Re: A Light at the End Of The Tunnel :-)
Human Genome Project Information Site Has Been Updated
this is a start, I will have to dig for the rest. I have much on my plate so be patient...

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iano
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Message 52 of 479 (469960)
06-08-2008 6:31 PM
Reply to: Message 23 by Dave101
06-08-2008 3:39 PM


Re: A Light at the End Of The Tunnel :-)
Dave101 writes:
I respond to the answers given by Iano. You are to be commended for your understanding of faith and justification by faith alone as the only way there is to please God. Thank you for taking time to be here.
Don't thank me, thank satan. He's such an abominable fucker you can't but attempt to thwart him.
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I see so much "Christian bashing" going on at this site. I made a long introduction the other night on another forum and it took the evolutionist folks about thirty seconds to condemn me and of course insult all things God.
How are you to learn to turn the other cheek unless you get into positions where you get slapped around?
It wasn't the evolutionist folk who condemned you, it was the unbelieving folk - who happen to believe in evolution who condemned you. There are believers who are evolutionists. I'm not one of them - and I'm not sure how they square the circle. But it's not the critical thing. In Christ or no. That's all that matters.
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So many are taught that it is a faith plus works environment so they never come to rest in the finished work of Christ Jesus on the Cross of Calvary and that saddens me.
If you can't beat 'em with an out and out lie then it's worth trying a lie that's closest to the truth. Satan doesn't give a cobblers which it is. So long as it works. Truth be known, it's hard to live by faith alone - who doesn't get around to trying to "earn" God's favor huh? "If I manage to keep away from x,y,z then maybe God'll be pleased". I'm sure you've trodden that path..
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The guys here seem to assume that we are here to insult and condemn them when the real reason I come is to discuss Freedom, Faith and the love of God that is there just for the asking...
I've no problem using a bit of within-the-rules insult and condemnation. It stimulates response. It's the gospel that saves, how you deliver it isn't the main concern.
The "guys here" are lost, are enemies of God, are God hating, are controlled by satan. Just as I once was. It's no surprise that you get the response you do. That said, there's no point in playing fish in a barrel (claiming science supports the YEC view is not advised - merely because science patently doesn't - at least not according to any standard of doing science that I ever heard of)
Being a Christian is simply a person that has put his trust in God to provide salvation for us because we fall short of that mark. Sin is real and is separation from our creator. He offers us sonship for the taking.... I just wish more would reach for Him. So many seem to blame Him for the wrongs of the world. If only they would understand that the pain and suffering is not from God, it is from our fallen nature. We are responsible for pain and suffering, not God. God offers us a way for Him to walk with us while we go through those times. I thank Him for this. Too many think it is His job to get us out of trouble. It's not. It is His pleasure to help us THROUGH our trouble... Well, here I go again :-)
(at risk of rubbing unbelieving scales the wrong way) Hallelujah!

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Dave101
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Message 53 of 479 (469961)
06-08-2008 6:33 PM
Reply to: Message 48 by bluegenes
06-08-2008 6:18 PM


Re: Another boy with imaginary friends.
hahaha... blue what is your name?????

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Brian
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Message 54 of 479 (469962)
06-08-2008 6:35 PM
Reply to: Message 44 by iano
06-08-2008 6:11 PM


Re: What is God's purpose?
Before moving on to the rest of your post, perhaps you could share the "method by which God knows all" you're basing your condemnation on.
God knows all because He is God.
How on earth am I supposed to know how He does it.
Knowing how and why God does anything is your job.
If this is the model you're working off then I can't see cause for complaint.
Whose complaining?
I am just pointing out how monstrous your God is.

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Dave101
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Message 55 of 479 (469963)
06-08-2008 6:39 PM
Reply to: Message 52 by iano
06-08-2008 6:31 PM


Re: A Light at the End Of The Tunnel :-)
Thanks for the response. On the issue of science and scripture though... one does support the other. The problem, friend is that there are groups out there that think what they do is science when in reality it is just another false religion. This is why Paul warned Timothy (I believe about evolution to come and other thins)... 1st Timothy 6:20,21... :-) Let them look it up
Edited by Dave101, : No reason given.

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iano
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From: Co. Wicklow, Ireland.
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Message 56 of 479 (469964)
06-08-2008 6:40 PM
Reply to: Message 54 by Brian
06-08-2008 6:35 PM


Re: What is God's purpose?
God knows all because He is God. How on earth am I supposed to know how He does it. Knowing how and why God does anything is your job.
Your accusation demands application of some model or other. The one I offered might not be to your liking. But it does get God off your hook. At least until you manage to figure a way out of your tailspin.
It really isn't good enough to cry "just because" like a child walking home with the ball.

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AdminNosy
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Message 57 of 479 (469965)
06-08-2008 6:42 PM
Reply to: Message 53 by Dave101
06-08-2008 6:33 PM


Wasted Posts
Dave, we have a limit of about 300 posts in a thread here. Please don't post one liners that don't contribute to the discussion at hand.
They also clutter up threads for those with limited time to read them.
Thanks.

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Dave101
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Message 58 of 479 (469968)
06-08-2008 6:44 PM
Reply to: Message 49 by Brian
06-08-2008 6:27 PM


Re: A Light at the End Of The Tunnel :-)
Go to bed Brian... :-) Thanks for the chat... BTW to me stupid = rock + time = man... (not for you, for bluewhatzisname...;-) Youy must hav a lot of faith Brian, to go to sleep, being at the closest a human can get to death, not knowing if you will wake in the morning.... WHEW... to sleep not accepting Jesus Christ takes more faith than I have... WOW!

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Brian
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Posts: 4659
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Message 59 of 479 (469969)
06-08-2008 6:49 PM
Reply to: Message 56 by iano
06-08-2008 6:40 PM


Re: What is God's purpose?
The one I offered might not be to your liking. But it does get God off your hook.
Off what hook?
How or why God knows the future is irrelevant to His barbarianism.
I don't make excuses for God, I just accept what the Bible tells us about Yahweh, He's a monstrous, jealous, bloodthirsty, evil tyrant. No big deal to me, but it isn't me who is worshipping this creature is it.

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iano
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Message 60 of 479 (469971)
06-08-2008 7:00 PM
Reply to: Message 59 by Brian
06-08-2008 6:49 PM


Re: What is God's purpose?
The one I offered might not be to your liking. But it does get God off your hook.
Off what hook? How or why God knows the future is irrelevant to His barbarianism.
Er..if God knows who will end up in Hell by virtue of observing their choosing to go there - then I can't see how his creating them so that they can choose either way can be seen as barbaric.
IF that's how he creates them - effectively able to choose either way - AND his knowing by observation doesn't alter their destination being their own (effective) free choice THEN I can't for the life of me see your gripe.

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