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Author Topic:   Monkey Girl, by Edward Humes
BeagleBob
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Message 1 of 4 (469828)
06-07-2008 10:02 PM


I did a search on these forums and was very surprised that it didn't come up.
Monkey Girl is a powerful retelling of the Dover Trial, with in-depth descriptions of the major players and a good hunk of science thrown into the mix. It describes Bill Buckingham's life and how it guided him to make the decisions he made as a member of the school board, the head-butting between the board members that supported the cdesign proponentist policy, the difficulties that the parents went through, the legal decisions, and the testimonies of researchers during the trial.
It's an incredible piece of work and a must-read for anyone interested in the history of the trial. There's drama, science, as well as tragedy when you get right down to it.
http://www.edwardhumes.com/
Anyone else give it a read?

  
spitze
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Message 2 of 4 (470694)
06-11-2008 11:30 PM


I did
I found it very well written. I read it back in November or December when I was reading a number of other books on the topic of evolution for a paper, so I'm having trouble remembering what was from which book, but I think I remember some outstanding analogies, such as his plethora of watchmakers and his 'blind darts' analogy.

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06-15-2008 2:49 PM
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06-11-2008 11:30 PM


Re: I did
I think the most impressive part was how he gave us an inside look at the ID side of things. He gave rich detail into Buckingham's motivations for what he did, and he even spoke for Dembski in a response to Barbara Forrest's testimony, even after Dembski had skipped out on the trial.
I honestly don't think it's very honest of IDists to paint Humes as "biased" when he gave ample arguments and perspectives from both sides. If this is the case then Intelligent Design is an adolescent field in more ways than one: it keeps trying to blame others for its own failures.

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spitze
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06-21-2008 1:21 AM
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06-15-2008 2:49 PM


Since I was reading the book for use in a paper, I wasn't as interested in story line as I was in finding good analogies that I could cite. His section on Panda's and People helped me show that intelligent design is no different than creationism, helping to prove my thesis that neither creationism nor ID are science and should therefore not be taught in public schools.

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