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Author Topic:   Why did they cover their nakedness?
rueh
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Message 31 of 81 (472998)
06-26-2008 11:56 AM
Reply to: Message 30 by jaywill
06-26-2008 9:09 AM


Re: Naughty God
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I deal with it by laughing and shaking my head at your twisting of the Bible.
Jaywill I know you are going to disagree with me on this, but you are twisting the bible just as much. You interpret the text literally when it suits the purpose. Then interpret it figuratively in another area. ex:
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we interpret the phrase "in the day". Should we take that to mean within 24 hours.
(figurative)
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They surely DID die. The serpent lied by saying "You shall not surely die!" Now you deal with it.
(figurative)
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"And out of the ground Jehovah God caused to grow every tree that is pleasant to the sight and good for food, as well as the tree of life in the middle of the garden and the tree of the knowledge of good and evil." (Gen. 2:9)
(Literal) actual trees?
Which one is it? If it is combination of both than everyone's interpretation is just as valid as yours.
Personally I don't believe there actually were two trees in a garden. I read the entire story metaphorically as a reason to explain human intelligence and humanities need for spiritual connection. But than again you can use the same argument against me as well. I believe that humans developed a need for clothing as community involvement and intellect evolved and the clothing part of the story is an add on to enforce decorum. Just my opinion.

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rueh
Member (Idle past 3661 days)
Posts: 382
From: universal city tx
Joined: 03-03-2008


Message 34 of 81 (473031)
06-26-2008 3:26 PM
Reply to: Message 32 by jaywill
06-26-2008 1:47 PM


Re: Naughty God
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So the either / or, actual verses allegorical trees, I think is an unnecessary false dichotomy in some instances in the Bible. It reads to me as actual trees with serious spiritual symbolism associated with them.
Ok, real or metephorical beside the point. I understand. What I don't get is that Adam and Eve were naked and were sexual creatures already. They were already told by God that doing so was good and within his wishes.
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Genesis 1:28 And God blessed them, and God said to them, "Be fruitful and multiply, and fill the earth and subdue it
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And God saw everything that he had made, and behold, it was very good. And there was evening and there was morning, a sixth day.
Now why does it all of a sudden become shamefull to Adam and Eve. It is not God who became ashamed of their nakedness,it is Adam and Eve.
Before knowledge
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Genesis 2:25 the man and his wife were both naked, and were not ashamed.
After knowledge
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Genesis 3:7 Then the eyes of both were opened, and they knew that they were naked.
What gets me is that,even though they knew now they were naked. They had to have known that they were made naked by God. Why does a knowledge of good and evil make being naked evil? Or even shamefull?
Of course this comes from the mind of a nudist

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rueh
Member (Idle past 3661 days)
Posts: 382
From: universal city tx
Joined: 03-03-2008


Message 36 of 81 (473066)
06-26-2008 6:38 PM
Reply to: Message 35 by jaywill
06-26-2008 4:07 PM


Re: Naughty God
I don't know. It seems like there is a lot that you have to interject in order for it to make sense. Examples include -
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The shame may have been due to the fact that they felt a loss of self control. Now they lusted. Now they were driven and under compulsion to do many things.
It doesn't say that their actions were any different than before ie. lust and lack of self control may have been there before they were awakened.
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light emanating from within which served as a cover.
Where is this in the bible? Seems to me just an imaginary add in to try to make sense of things.

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