The Obama Nation

Whatever, Subbie. I'm just telling you what the man says he will implement for the US of A. Haven't you listened to his repetitive logo, that he will CHANGE America? You have to commend the man, nonetheless. He's at least for-warning America as to what to expect under his regime.

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BUZSAW B 4 U 2 C Y BUZ SAW.
The immeasurable present eternally extends the infinite past and infinitely consumes the eternal future.

Quite honestly, I'm hard pressed to imagine how anyone who grew up in this country and has even an inkling of how our government works could begin to believe that Obama would have any chance at all of doing half the things that you seem to think he's going to do. This country is not a dictatorship. The President's actual powers are limited, and just about anything that he can do can be undone by Congress, or by the Supreme Court if it's outside his power.What's more, I'm quite certain that Obama knows this. He'd have to be a blithering idiot to think that he'd be able to do those things as President. And, whatever you think of his politics, you have to admit he's not a blithering idiot.

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Those who would sacrifice an essential liberty for a temporary security will lose both, and deserve neither. -- Benjamin FranklinWe see monsters where science shows us windmills. -- Phat

Subbie, friend, no; for sure, Obama is no idiot. Like Hitler, he's a master charismatic minipulator/orator who can present himself as all things to all men. With Palosi and Co, all Obama things are possible to change America from the US of A into the American Socalist Regime. (ASR). Edited by Buzsaw, : correct Palosi spelling

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BUZSAW B 4 U 2 C Y BUZ SAW.
The immeasurable present eternally extends the infinite past and infinitely consumes the eternal future.

No Buz, friend, it's not possible for him to succeed at those things. Not as long as we have paranoid fearmongers protecting our liberty.:sigh:

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Those who would sacrifice an essential liberty for a temporary security will lose both, and deserve neither. -- Benjamin FranklinWe see monsters where science shows us windmills. -- Phat

Oh please. All this, "He's a Muslim", He's a socialist" rhetoric is simply a red herring, so ridiculous even on the surface that no informed person can possibly take it seriously. The truth is that fundamentalists soaked in religious dogma are actually slobbering at the chance that McSame will get the opportunity to appoint enough godsmacked neo-cons to the Supreme Court to overturn current rulings on the Establishment Clause. All the rest is just smoke and mirrors...

I'm sorry, did you just compare Obama to fucking Hitler?And as usual, you've insisted that Obama's "bad" because his policies are "socialist" without describing how they are socialist or why that would be bad.And I assure you, people in actual socialist countries would laugh at the idea that any of Obama's policies are "socialist." And as a quality of life measurement, I'd be very happy to live in most of the European socialist countries.

Hi QED99. Welcome to EvC. If this is so much of a red herring, you surely should have no problem in substantiating your claim by stating your reasons why it's a red herring. Please educate us all on the www here.

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BUZSAW B 4 U 2 C Y BUZ SAW.
The immeasurable present eternally extends the infinite past and infinitely consumes the eternal future.

Rahvin, did you even read my message in this very thread regarding his socialism before posting your personl attack? Edited by Buzsaw, : correct link

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BUZSAW B 4 U 2 C Y BUZ SAW.
The immeasurable present eternally extends the infinite past and infinitely consumes the eternal future.

You mean this one? The bare assertion that Obama's voting record has been "socialist" without demonstrating in what way his positions are socialist? The implication that "socialist = bad" in all circumstances?You mean when you did exactly what I said you did? And this is different from any other politician...how? Oh! Would you look there! More accusations of "socialism" without substantiating how his policies are socialist, with yet more insinuations that "socialist" policies are "bad" in all circumstances! And then you tack on a "he answered the question, but didn't specifically say he'd support the 2nd Amendment!"I know Jesus himself would need to come down and tell you that Obama is neither socialist nor Muslim, but Christ!Do you even know what socialism is?

Because a presidential candidate's religion is compeltely irrelevant to his candidacy, unless you're a racist idiot like you, Buz.Because accusations of "socialism" have been thrown around since the McCarthy era, and if you can't present a reasoned rebuttal of specific positions a candidate has beyond "zomg socialist!" then such accusations are similarly irrelevant.

You've been given pages and pages of substantiation. Don't play coy and pretend this is a new thread. It's too red-herring-like. Really.Then you pull a Ben Stein. Like no one would notice. Playing the Hitler card is always the last gasp of desperation. But go ahead, have at it. You do it wrong sooo well.

Shortly after your post, didnt i ask you to explain what he has done thats "socialistic"?You can find all bills he ever sponsored or voted on here:
http://thomas.loc.gov/Please, point us to his socialist past. Edited by rbp, : Link Fixed

Link doesn't work. Can you fix it?Please, no replies to this message.Adminnemooseus

Hate and fear, the two horns of the golden calf.

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Read not to contradict and confute, not to believe and take for granted, not to find talk and discourse, but to weigh and consider - Francis BaconThe more we understand particular things, the more we understand God - Spinoza

*choke* err, Buz, are you now so demented that you are comparing Obama to Hitler ??? I'm sorry, Buz, it's rude to laugh at someone in your condition - but don't worry, we're not laughing with you, we're laughing at you