Are Republicans that sinister or are they just plain stupid?

So these retards have opened up shop near the Democratic Convention to spread the "truth" and are even calling their setup the "Ministry of Truth"Colorado politics news, elections, races, candidates The Denver Post So what is the "Ministry of Truth"? Anyone who has read Orwell's 1984 will pick it out right away and it is not an endearing name.Ministries of Nineteen Eighty-Four - Wikipedia An editorial treatment of the issue:
Page Not Found: 404 Not Found - So my question is, are the Republicans being sinister with this comment or are they just that stupid that they would call their spin campaign after the Orwellian creation?Either way I find the irony in it amazing.Edited by Jazzns, : Edit grammar.

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Of course, biblical creationists are committed to belief in God's written Word, the Bible, which forbids bearing false witness; --AIG (lest they forget)

It has been clear that Republicans in this century are quite happy to use lie after lie as a political tactic.It is appalling to watch from outside.In spite of recognizing that the US has a clear choice and simply must elect Obama I begin to think that the US as a whole doesn't really deserve him and should get what they do deserve: the leaky ship of McCain and the republicans.

Yea but the crazy thing is that they are basically calling their little outfit a lie/propaganda machine. I just don't know if they are doing it intentionally or unintentionally.Would someone really ignorant of Orwell come up with "Ministry of Truth" all by themselves?

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Of course, biblical creationists are committed to belief in God's written Word, the Bible, which forbids bearing false witness; --AIG (lest they forget)

Well, the words "Ministry of Truth" shouldn't automatically make one think about Orwell unless they've previously familiarized themselves with it. Afterall, those words wouldn't generally evoke Orwellian conspiracy. It smacks of trying to sound self-righteous. Edited by Nemesis Juggernaut, : No reason given.Edited by Nemesis Juggernaut, : wrong quote

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“Tu ne cede malis sed contra audentior ito"

Yeah its a troll thread, by the poster who claims to want intellectual debate on here yet uses names like "retards" in the 1st 3 words to describe some one he disagrees with.The Irony is rather funny though.Edited by Artemis Entreri, : No reason given.

Looks to me that these particular Republicans (The Ministry of Truthers) are just stupid.In general, some Republicans are sinister, and some are stupid. Surely some are a disgusting mix of both. Both there's certainly some Republicans who are neither sinister nor stupid, and just happen to have a different view of what's best for America than I do.

Your comment reminds me of the original name for the campaign in Iraq. It was suppose to be Operation Iraqi Liberation (OIL). Fortunately for the Bush Administration, someone down the CIA ladder noticed it and the upper command decided to change it to Operation Iraqi Freedom. This is like saying "Well, the words 'Final Solution' shouldn't automatically make one think about Hitler unless they've previously familiarized themselves with it." If you haven't realized by now, that's not the point. The point of this thread is we're making fun of the republican group that apparently failed to double check their name just like we'd be laughing at the Bush Administration if they went ahead with "Operation Iraqi Liberation" and then say "oops" later on. Hahaha, I see you don't have that many friends in academia.I think I told this story here before. I was just waltzing along minding my own business when an elderly gent who was walking with a young lady stopped me and asked me "why did Oedipus kill his father and married his mother?" I immediately answered "fate" and then added "everybody knows that". The elderly gent went ahead and told me that he was trying to tell the young lady that everybody knows this and that any random person on the street would probably know it if asked out of the blue.I'm almost certain that the "ministry of truth" would provoke just about the same sort of immediate response from any random person on the street... unless of course the person is a republican LOLBut seriously, Nem, there are certain phrases and facts that should be obvious to everybody. These phrases and facts include but not limited to "final solution", why oedipus killed his father and married his mother, and "ministry of truth". To not know these, or at least not have anyone at all in your organization to recognize these, is like the twightlight zone.Added by edit.Anyway, I was laughing too much to remember what I wanted to say. Here is what I originally wanted to say. Remember that time when you called a black athelete who made a rather stupid mistake "boy"? Pretty much all of us jumped on you and informed you that the word "boy" was used by whites on black men during the segregation era as a way to put down black men. You at the time confessed that you hadn't heard of this before. Well, we're telling you right now. The "ministry of truth" set off the same flashing red lights that you set off when you used the word "boy" on a black man.Frankly, I'm still surprised they didn't mention about the "boy" thing to you when you went through training to be a peace officer. Could have sworn a cultural diversity course is included in just about every law enforcement academy in the nation nowadays.Edited by Taz, : No reason given.

Republicans generally believe less in pollitical correctness, so possibly they knew it was orwellian, but didnt care. Obama fired some people over political correctness, and cut loose his preacher of many years. It just means to Obama image is everything, but then republicans are currently much about image too, if a little less.

My guess is that over half of the random people on the street around here, or almost anywhere in the US, would have no inkling of who Oedipus or Orwell were. They might think they were on "Dancing with the Stars," but the names would raise no other glimmer of anything.And I'll bet the Republican ninny of the OP had no clue of where "Ministry of Truth" came from. Not even Rove could be cynical enough to publically deliberately apply that to his own machine.

I guess you're right in some sense. I lived for a time around academic settings where it wasn't uncommon to sit down at a random place in a random coffee shop and be able to listen to the people around the next table discuss about shakespeare, and I'm not even talking about a college campus. I live in the suburbs now where I can tell you with absolute certainty that I could pick any random neighbor of mine and be able to discuss shakespeare or orwell or what have you.The ministry of truth thing with the republican tells me what kind of crowd the republican party appeals to for the most part. But I guess ignorance is bliss nowadays. Just pointing out a random fact. Notice how everytime we have a debate regarding a scientific subject there's always a person waltzing in (usually very religious) claiming the most absurd and ignorant things while proclaiming to have a monopoly on "truth". This is how I tell whether the person is pure bullshit or not. Anytime someone claims to have "truth", he's pure bullshit on my book.

GOP slogan coming soon: "War is Peace; Freedom is Slavery; Ignorance is Strength.". Maybe Guantanamo should be renamed 'Ministry of Love'.

I have taken to occasionally looking at redstate.com, for the same reason I look at conservapedia - To see what the crackpot loons are up to now.Anyhow, the story with the headline "Does Anyone Really Care That History’s Greatest Monster is No Longer a Southern Baptist?" shows up there. Wow, I thought - Fred Phelps. WRONG. Besides, he's an independent baptist.It turns out they're linking to an almost 9 year old story.So, guess who this "histories greatest monster" is. Jimmy CarterSomeone is trying to make Michele Bachman look sane.Moose

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Professor, geology, Whatsamatta U
Evolution - Changes in the environment, caused by the interactions of the components of the environment. "Do not meddle in the affairs of cats, for they are subtle and will piss on your computer." - Bruce Graham

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"The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness." - John Kenneth Galbraith

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"As democracy is perfected, the office of president represents, more and more closely, the inner soul of the people. On some great and glorious day the plain folks of the land will reach their heart's desire at last and the White House will be adorned by a downright moron." - H.L. Mencken (1880-1956)

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"Nixon was a professional politician, and I despised everything he stood for ” but if he were running for president this year against the evil Bush-Cheney gang, I would happily vote for him." - Hunter S. Thompson

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"I know a little about a lot of things, and a lot about a few things, but I'm highly ignorant about everything." - Moose

I can't get the embed to work.The transcript:

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POWELL: I can handle his criticism. But the problem I'm having with the Party right now is when he says things that I consider to be completely outrageous, and I respond to it, I would like to see other members of the Party do likewise. But they don't.

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KING: Do you think they're afraid to take him on?

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POWELL: Well, I know a number of instances where sitting members in Congress or elsewhere in positions of responsibility in the Party, made light criticism of Rush and within 24 hours they were backing away because there is a strong base of support for Mr. Limbaugh.

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LinkRush Limbaugh has publicly stated that he is an entertainer. Now, comedy and satire can be valid political commentary, but Rush Limbaugh is a bad, irrational satirist. And his followers don't seem to realize such.Limbaugh is part of "the forth branch of the government". As such, if the Republican politicians allow him to be their spokesman, then the Republican party position is going to look stupid.And the right accuses Al Franken of being "just a comedian". At least Al recognizes Rush as being "A Big Fat Idiot".Mooseps: Why does Firefox recognize "Limbaugh" as being a correct spelling, but not "Franken"

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Professor, geology, Whatsamatta U
Evolution - Changes in the environment, caused by the interactions of the components of the environment.

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"Do not meddle in the affairs of cats, for they are subtle and will piss on your computer." - Bruce Graham

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"The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness." - John Kenneth Galbraith

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"I know a little about a lot of things, and a lot about a few things, but I'm highly ignorant about everything." - Moose

It's all part of the vast right-wing conspiracy to get people to misspell Franken, just like they've gotten people to refer to the "democrat" Party instead of the Democratic Party.
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