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Author Topic:   Evolutionary idiocy (More or less standard dogma)?
Coyote
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Message 6 of 73 (487533)
11-01-2008 12:28 PM
Reply to: Message 5 by onifre
11-01-2008 10:21 AM


Creation "science" again
You're 20 issues were supposed to deal a blow to evolution and evolutionist, you have done none of this. You tried to deal with cosmology and showed that you really don't know much about it, then you tried to show how complex we are and how you can't imagine it happening without God, which actually doesn't prove or show evidence against anything.
These "20 issues" are typical of creation "science" as we see it today.
The details don't matter; to creation "scientists" details really don't matter because creation "science" is apologetics, designed to support fundamentalist Christian belief.
The ultimate answers are "known" to its practitioners. The details of how things got the way they are are unimportant. If it was not by one method, it was by another, and they don't much care either way.
This, by the way, is diametrically opposed to the way real science operates.
But that list of 20 "evolution killers" is standard fare for creation "science." Its not supposed to be real science; its enough that it convinces those who already believe. And when the list is picked apart by scientists, who cares? Creation "scientists" already know the answers so the "interpretations" of evilutionists don't matter.

Religious belief does not constitute scientific evidence, nor does it convey scientific knowledge.

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Message 41 of 73 (487717)
11-03-2008 9:34 PM
Reply to: Message 40 by chemscience
11-03-2008 9:09 PM


Re: OK, HUNTARD #2
Answering your question: I believe these things contradict Darwinism:

Religious belief does not constitute scientific evidence, nor does it convey scientific knowledge.

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Message 43 of 73 (487719)
11-03-2008 10:36 PM
Reply to: Message 39 by chemscience
11-03-2008 8:59 PM


Early Man
A chart from the Life Book EARLY MAN hangs in thousands of classrooms illustrating "25 million years of evolution." The first 4 critters: Piopithecus, Procounsul, Dryopithecus & Oreopithecus are captioned as not being ancestral to man. Next, Ramapithecus, was dated at 5 MY ago and considered our first confirmed ancestor. When someone finally found a complete jawbone he was reclassified as “sivapithecus” a genus considered ancestral to orangutans & back-dated to 15MY.
Then the EARLY MAN chart shows 2MY of australopithecines which both Leaky and Montegu deny were ancestral to humans. THE WHOLE CHART IS A LIE! But there it hangs in front of millions of children selling a greater lie: evolution is science and God made nothing.
The Time-Life book Early Man appears to be from 1968.
There have been a lot of discoveries and refinements since then, both in fossils and in dating methods.
And the field of genetics and DNA analysis has come into its own since then.
But don't let that stand in the way of the standard creationist talking point that science is all wrong and can't be trusted because it changes.
Those changes represent improvements; science is becoming more accurate all the time.
Your examples from the Early Man book are horribly outdated. Care to try again with current scientific findings? What, for example, do you think of Homo ergaster and its role as a transitional?

Religious belief does not constitute scientific evidence, nor does it convey scientific knowledge.

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