Hi, Cat.
And, Hi, Peg.
Peg writes:
1. Fish fossils on mountain ranges.
This tells us that at some time in the past, there WAS water covering much of the earth...
Or, that at some point in the past, the mountains were in the ocean. It's going to take a thorough refutation of plate tectonics theory to make this claim fly, which means you pretty much have to prove that earthquakes and tidal waves don't happen.
Good luck.
Peg writes:
from the dessert regions of Lebanon to the driest of places like Australia.
Dessert regions!? That sounds like a nice place to live.
Certainly better than living in
desert regions, anyway.
Utah is a very dry place. But, during the Pleistocene, it was covered by a giant lake called Lake Bonneville. You can still see the "bathtub" rings where the lake reached its highest point. The fact that those rings exists pretty much proves that Lake Bonneville had defined boundaries, which shows that parts of the world can be covered in water without the entire Earth having been covered in water at one time.
Also, as I'm sure Coyote is going to point out sooner or later {AbE: looks like he beat me to it, actually
}, there's this pesky thing called "radiometric dating" that you're going to have to face up to sooner or later. Like most creationists and IDists, you have simply assumed that you can just dismiss radiometric dating as “iffy” and “inaccurate” without having to actually resort to using evidence.
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Peg writes:
The Pleistocene Extinction!
The logical answer is that it came with the rapid change that occurred at the time of the Flood. With the removal of the insulating watery canopy, the polar regions were suddenly plunged into a deep freeze, trapping animals that then lived far north of their present habitat.
Yet, curiously, radiometric dating and fossil discoveries show that there was no massive Flood that coincided with the Ice Age. Remember, Lake Bonneville was roughly contemporary with the Ice Age, and it had distinct maximum boundaries. Also note that the "bathtub" rings dilineating Lake Bonneville were not found in other places of the same age, so, clearly, the Flood was either restricted to Lake Bonneville, or didn't happen at that time. Besides, it’s unlikely that you’ll to find enough water to simultaneously flood the entire planet
and freeze the poles over.
Furthermore, if you're attributing the Pleistocene extinction to the Flood, to what are you attributing the Devonian, Permian, Cretaceous and other extinction events?
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Now, this is an interesting statement.
First, there was only ever
one Jurassic Period.
Second, your link leads to an article about a mammoth estimated to be 50,000 years old. By comparison, the Cretaceous Period was 65 to 145
million years ago, and the Jurassic was directly before that. I’m not sure why there is a mammoth article here at all.
Third, I’m calling your (or your source’s) bluff: nobody has found Jurassic creatures in the Cretaceous Period. I will gladly retract this statement if you show me the fossils in question.
Fourth,
you don’t think it’s even remotely possible that perhaps
the writers of the Bible just might have their intepretations wrong on some things, so why are you using the argument the
somebody else might be relying too much on somebody’s words?
Please pay attention to the scientific literature and note that science is essentially
nothing but arguing (we say “debating,” but , sometimes, that term is used far too generously). We attack, flame and slander each other as much as we attack, flame and slander creationists, so you’re not going to get very far with the argument that we just happily agree with everything that our colleagues say in a grand, united conspiracy bent on destroying Christianity.
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Peg writes:
4. Seamounts
There is an estimated 30,000 seamounts across the globe, but only a few have ever been studied. These are mountains under water. If the world was indeed flooded , then surely the fact that thousands of mountains are found under water, make the flood plausible.
So, is it your opinion that the seafloor should be completely flat in the absence of a flood? What is the seafloor but a piece of land covered by water? Do you know of any completely flat stretch of land anywhere on the earth? Even Nebraska has a couple of hills, Peg.
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-Bluejay
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