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Black
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Message 320 of 347 (500179)
02-23-2009 7:49 PM
Reply to: Message 1 by killinghurts
11-30-2008 11:45 PM


killinghurts,
killinghurts writes:
I have two questions for creationists out there with regards to the size of the Ark (specifically volume).
The constants according to my understanding of The Bible (correct me if I'm wrong) are:
a) It has to be big enough to house two (male and female) of each of every single species that has ever existed on Earth, including the dinosaurs, and some error margin for any species we haven't actually discovered yet, or has become extinct since
Incorrect. The only species that would have boarded the ark are the living species that a flood would kill.

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Message 322 of 347 (500185)
02-23-2009 8:45 PM
Reply to: Message 321 by onifre
02-23-2009 7:58 PM


onfire,
onfire writes:
So what happened to the dinosuars? That didn't kill humans and every other species? Or did humans get "created" after the dinos went extict? How did that creation story go again...?
There are regions of the world that are unexplored such as the swamps of Africa. The swamps of Africa are as large as some of the states in America but yet they are 80% unexplored.

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Black
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Message 325 of 347 (500192)
02-23-2009 9:35 PM
Reply to: Message 324 by Coyote
02-23-2009 9:11 PM


Re: Dinosaurs
Coyote,
Coyote writes:
You do realize that dinosaurs became extinct some 65 million years before the Noah's ark myth, don't you?
Based on current exploration hence current scientific data. I have old science books that state our universe is 70,000,000 years old but based on current data it is approx. 20,000,000,000 years old. Who knows how old our universe will be in another 50 years. I also remember, historically, scientific data supporting a flat earth and even a geocentric earth. What other scientific data/facts do you have for me?
Coyote writes:
And that the volume calculation of the ark is just a thought experiment to show that that specific part of the myth is physically impossible?
In theory.
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Black
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Message 327 of 347 (500199)
02-23-2009 10:26 PM
Reply to: Message 323 by onifre
02-23-2009 9:02 PM


onfire,
Are you saying the dinosuars are in Africa?
Go find out.
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Message 329 of 347 (500202)
02-23-2009 10:38 PM
Reply to: Message 328 by Coyote
02-23-2009 10:29 PM


Re: Dinosaurs
Coyote,
Coyote writes:
Science is increasingly accurate. Is that a problem for you? Or are you convinced that science is all wrong and the earth is something like 6,000 years old? If so, find or start an appropriate thread and we can discuss it.
I have respect for Science and Faith. One claims we came from a rock and another claims we came from God. However, they are both theoretical.
No, in fact. That is the whole point of this thread. If you disagree, show some evidence.
The actual volume calculation could be fact but what was inserted into the ark is theoretical.

Nothing is coming!

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Message 331 of 347 (500209)
02-23-2009 11:10 PM
Reply to: Message 330 by Coyote
02-23-2009 11:00 PM


Re: Dinosaurs & definitions
Coyote,
Incorrect. The book of Genesis is evidence that the Ark existed. The rest of your post is mute.
P.S.
I just wanted to make sure we are on the same page. Science becomes faith when you claim microevolution leads to macroevolution or when you claim the fossil record supports macroevolution.
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Black
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Message 335 of 347 (500215)
02-23-2009 11:20 PM
Reply to: Message 332 by Theodoric
02-23-2009 11:18 PM


Re: Dinosaurs & definitions
Theodoric,
There is no such thing as proof but however it is evidence.

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Message 336 of 347 (500216)
02-23-2009 11:20 PM
Reply to: Message 334 by lyx2no
02-23-2009 11:19 PM


Re: Troll
lyx2n0,
not true. I ment mute. Oh, and contradiction is enough.
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Message 338 of 347 (500218)
02-23-2009 11:21 PM
Reply to: Message 337 by Theodoric
02-23-2009 11:20 PM


Re: Dinosaurs & definitions
theodoric,
mute means silent.
exactly.

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Message 341 of 347 (500222)
02-23-2009 11:28 PM
Reply to: Message 339 by Coyote
02-23-2009 11:26 PM


Re: Dinosaurs & definitions
Coyote,
The book of Genesis does indicate that an ark existed therefor it is evidence.
I ment mute. In other words: be silent or your post is silent. It's a metaphor.
Are we going to attack each other all day or are we going to debate?
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Message 344 of 347 (500228)
02-24-2009 12:02 AM
Reply to: Message 342 by Coyote
02-23-2009 11:33 PM


Re: Dinosaurs & definitions
Coyote,
http://ehwchurch.org/...nar+3+-+Dinosaurs+and+the+Bible.html
check the link out it has some good information in it. just click play when the link loads.
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Black
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Message 345 of 347 (500229)
02-24-2009 12:05 AM
Reply to: Message 343 by IchiBan
02-23-2009 11:51 PM


Re: Dinosaurs & definitions
ichiBan,
Yeah lol.

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