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lyx2no
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Message 1 of 7 (500802)
03-02-2009 3:30 PM


Welcome Kelly
In another thread a new member, Kelly, wrote:
Creation Science is a study of the same evidence that evolutionists study, using the same scientific methods of making observations, establishing a hypothesis to explain those observations, and then testing said hypothesis. My purpose is to explain that most people do not really know or understand what Creation Science is.
I'd like to modify this a bit to:
Creation Science is a study of the natural biological history of Earth using scientific methods of making observations, establishing a hypothesis to explain those observations, and then testing said hypothesis. My purpose is to explain that most people do not really know or understand what Creation Science is.
I do this to eliminate the reference to evolution. If "Creationist Science" is "¬ evolution" then this would be yet another stupid "Evolution-has-problems" thread. Anyone referring to flaws in evolution or evolutionists is off topic in this thread.
Kelly, you claim to be passionate about this topic. I start this thread for you. Please come and tell me about the science, the methods, the hypotheses and the tests preformed or planed of creationist scientists. I am totally ignorant of any. My ear is yours.
(Is it Science)
Edited by lyx2no, : Typos and add subtitle

Genesis 2
17 But of the ponderosa pine, thou shalt not eat of it; for in the day that thou shinniest thereof thou shalt sorely learn of thy nakedness.
18 And we all live happily ever after.

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Message 2 of 7 (500823)
03-02-2009 4:50 PM


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Message 3 of 7 (500829)
03-02-2009 4:53 PM
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03-02-2009 3:30 PM


Re: Welcome Kelly
I'm also intrigued by this, will we finally get to see what methods are used, and what hypotheses are tested? I can hardly wait!
Kelly, I'll follow this thread with great interest!

I hunt for the truth

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Granny Magda
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Message 4 of 7 (500833)
03-02-2009 4:59 PM


Non-Theist Creationists?
One good way to demonstrate the difference between creation science and religious creationism would be to provide some evidence for this claim;
Kelly writes:
Did you know that there are many creationists who do not have a religion or specific belief in any God? They simply recognize that the earth and all living things cannot be explained solely in terms of a self-contained universe by ongoing natural processes.
From here.
Who are these non-theist creation scientists? If they exist, they would go some way toward proving that creation science is not merely religion in disguise. If there are "many" they should be easy to find; so who are they?
Mutate and Survive.

"The Bible is like a person, and if you torture it long enough, you can get it to say almost anything you'd like it to say." -- Rev. Dr. Francis H. Wade

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Message 5 of 7 (500836)
03-02-2009 5:10 PM
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03-02-2009 4:59 PM


Re: Non-Theist Creationists?
I have requested evidence from Kelly, to back up his assertions and comments, a few times already today.
Here
Here
And here
Still waiting for a shred of evidence. I don't think any will be forthcoming.

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lyx2no
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Message 6 of 7 (500837)
03-02-2009 5:12 PM
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03-02-2009 4:59 PM


Re: Non-Theist Creationists?
Who are these non-theist creation scientists? If they exist, they would go some way toward proving that creation science is not merely religion in disguise. If there are "many" they should be easy to find; so who are they?
I'd think it more productive to find out their methods then their affiliations. Though I'd not bet my old socks that their methods won't give them away. Let wait and see, shall we.

Genesis 2
17 But of the ponderosa pine, thou shalt not eat of it; for in the day that thou shinniest thereof thou shalt sorely learn of thy nakedness.
18 And we all live happily ever after.

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Message 7 of 7 (500844)
03-02-2009 5:19 PM


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