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Author Topic:   The wonder of science vs. the banality of creation
Dr Jack
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Message 1 of 64 (502615)
03-12-2009 2:49 PM


I think one of the things that puzzles me most about Creationist is how willing they are to accept that the incredible wonder of everything we see around us has such an utterly banal explaination.
On the one hand, we have the scientific version in which we're shown rock formations from three and a half billion years ago that demonstrate the existence of life. Three and a half billion years! Wow! What an amazing thing! We have amazing fossils such as Pikaia gracilens, Tiktaalik or Archaeopteryx; showing us key moments in evolution. The incredible structure and detail; the amazing ways we can learn about the world from these things.
On the other we have "God did it".
How can anyone be satisfied with that? How can anyone look at the incredible explanatory power of science, the amazing detail, the wondorous ways in which we can know and the startling finds that teach us about reality, and then shrug their shoulders and turn to chapter two?
I just don't get it.
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Dr Jack
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Message 40 of 64 (503886)
03-23-2009 6:04 AM
Reply to: Message 14 by Sky-Writing
03-22-2009 6:03 PM


The founders of modern science were believers in God.
Muslim or Christian, it didn't cause them any harm
or interfere with their accomplishments.
How many of them shrugged their shoulders when faced with understanding the world, and said 'god did it'? Did Newton offer up a theory of gravity or leave it as intelligent falling?
There's nothing about being religious that stops people being excellent scientists; the problem is the acceptance of the banal, non-explaination that Creationism offers - especially when contrasted with the majesty of real biology.

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Dr Jack
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Message 47 of 64 (503901)
03-23-2009 10:27 AM
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03-23-2009 10:12 AM


Re: Newton's GodDidIt
It is my understanding that Newton's math showed that the solar system would not be long-term stable and his conclusion was that God helped maintain the stability and didn't work on the math any further.
Really? I didn't know that.

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