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Author Topic:   The wonder of science vs. the banality of creation
Granny Magda
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Message 23 of 64 (503847)
03-22-2009 8:01 PM
Reply to: Message 21 by Sky-Writing
03-22-2009 7:52 PM


Re: Law of Nature
How many other planets have you visited in your search for life Sky?
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"The Bible is like a person, and if you torture it long enough, you can get it to say almost anything you'd like it to say." -- Rev. Dr. Francis H. Wade

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Granny Magda
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Message 30 of 64 (503859)
03-22-2009 9:04 PM
Reply to: Message 26 by Sky-Writing
03-22-2009 8:42 PM


Re: Law of Nature
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I wish you well, but don't expect me to foot the bill on your quest to prove me wrong. Not even for SETI.
The point is not whether alien life exists or not. The point is that you should realise that you are basing your argument upon a glaring fallacy.
You claim that life is unique. You claim this in a vacuum of evidence. To demonstrate that there was no extra-terrestrial life anywhere in the universe, you would need to be able to examine the entire universe, no?
You are engaging in hasty generalisation. For all you know, life could be relatively common in the universe. Or it could be unique to Earth. You just don't know and neither do I. There's simply not enough information.
Pulling "facts" out of your ass is no substitute for an argument. In fact, it typifies the kind of woolly thinking that leads directly to the stunted world-view that Mr Jack criticises in his OP.
Mutate and Survive

"The Bible is like a person, and if you torture it long enough, you can get it to say almost anything you'd like it to say." -- Rev. Dr. Francis H. Wade

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Granny Magda
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Message 45 of 64 (503899)
03-23-2009 9:59 AM
Reply to: Message 42 by Sky-Writing
03-23-2009 7:46 AM


Re: Law of Nature
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yawn...I admire your insights....ZZZzzz
Is that all you have to say in response to the fallacious reasoning at the heart of your argument being laid bare for you? Are you not bothered that you are basing your case upon fallacious rubbish? Wouldn't you rather avoid fallacies?
Since you have not attempted to refute my point, concentrating instead on childish nonsense, I must assume that you are happy to concede that you were wrong.

Ooh look, here comes another one;
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Yet that is the background they came from. So to suggest there is anything banal about it, is ignoring the reality that that exact foundation is what made them what they were and CAUSED them to explore the world further.
How do you know that religion was what caused these scientists to study nature? How do you know that it wasn't simple intellectual curiosity? Why are not concerned that you are basing another argument upon an obvious fallacy, namely post hoc reasoning?
Scientist A had a religious upbringing --> Scientist A became a great scientist --> Therefore religious upbringing causes great science.
Do you not see the flaw in the above? If so why use that argument? If not, you must be blind.
I had breakfast this morning --> This afternoon I fell off my bike --> Therefore eating breakfast causes bike accidents.
Do you see the problem?

Added by Edit; I almost missed this piece of nonsense;
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Look at the amount of money spent on SETI. JUST to prove that there is more life than what the scriptures reveal. Scientifically speaking, the task is over, but the project refuses to die.
I see that you are content to repeat the same rubbish over again. You have no evidence that the search for extra-terrestrial life is destined to be fruitless and you have had it clearly demonstrated to you that such statements are illogical. But why let that stop you? Why stop repeating a refuted argument? Much more fun to just mindlessly parrot the same old crap.
SETI is not about disproving your precious scriptures. It's not even about proving that there is alien life. It is about finding out whether there is alien life. Your silly myths and fables have nothing to do with it. They are your obsession, not SETI's. You are projecting.
Not everybody shares your interest in the Bible, and, thankfully, not everybody shares your eagerness to decide how the universe ticks without bothering to study it.
Mutate and Survive
Edited by Granny Magda, : As noted.

"The Bible is like a person, and if you torture it long enough, you can get it to say almost anything you'd like it to say." -- Rev. Dr. Francis H. Wade

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