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kjsimons
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Message 16 of 34 (506901)
04-30-2009 9:19 AM
Reply to: Message 15 by Artemis Entreri
04-29-2009 8:20 PM


Seriously, are you an adult? You don't have to be the driver that was pulled over to file a complaint. If you are a witness to police misbehavior you can file a complaint. In fact I would argue that it is your civic duty to due so. There are always a few bad apples in any group of people, but to call the police "the worst criminal on the street" is over the top.
As a teenager my friends and I were pulled over a few times when it wasn't warranted and the local yokels did pull some shit that probably wouldn't hold up in court. We were too intimidated at that young age to question their actions. I wouldn't stand for their treatment now and would protest and follow up with a complaint it they continued. But of course they are much less likely to harrass a white middle-aged professional then they are teens or near teens. Of course I deserved to be pulled over more often in my teens and twenties them I do now that I'm in my 40's!

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Taz
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Message 17 of 34 (507536)
05-05-2009 10:18 PM
Reply to: Message 15 by Artemis Entreri
04-29-2009 8:20 PM


Artemis Entreri writes:
It has been my best experience to not even talk to police officers, and carry a passport so when they demand ID you can give them a US ID (which they have to accept but has no specific information on it except your name). They only get to see my drivers license if they pull me over while I am driving my truck.
This is a joke, right? They only need your name, sex, and date of birth to pull up everything the government has on you. Take my word for it, as a public servant you have no idea how many times I've seen cases where people didn't even know they had a warrant for their arrest. If you want to give them an ID that doesn't have any useful info, give them a student ID or something as long as there's no birth date. Or you could drive around with a wig on and pretend to be a female... that screws up their results also.
It is my experience that people who really really don't like cops regularly do things they're not suppose to be doing.

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Artemis Entreri 
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Message 18 of 34 (507579)
05-06-2009 2:20 PM
Reply to: Message 17 by Taz
05-05-2009 10:18 PM


no joking, the Cops really do suck.

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bluescat48
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Message 19 of 34 (507583)
05-06-2009 2:38 PM
Reply to: Message 18 by Artemis Entreri
05-06-2009 2:20 PM


Artemis Entreri writes:
no joking, the Cops really do suck.
Legitimate evidence please.

There is no better love between 2 people than mutual respect for each other WT Young, 2002
Who gave anyone the authority to call me an authority on anything. WT Young, 1969
Since Evolution is only ~90% correct it should be thrown out and replaced by Creation which has even a lower % of correctness. W T Young, 2008

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onifre
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Message 20 of 34 (507609)
05-06-2009 6:27 PM
Reply to: Message 17 by Taz
05-05-2009 10:18 PM


It is my experience that people who really really don't like cops regularly do things they're not suppose to be doing.
Then 90% of politicians hate cops.

"I smoke pot. If this bothers anyone, I suggest you look around at the world in which we live and shut your mouth."--Bill Hicks
"I never knew there was another option other than to question everything"--Noam Chomsky

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onifre
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Message 21 of 34 (507611)
05-06-2009 6:38 PM
Reply to: Message 15 by Artemis Entreri
04-29-2009 8:20 PM


Artemis Entreri writes:
not unlike your assumption of the situation I described, or your assumptions about people who play role playing games.
No assumtion...
Artemis Entreri writes:
PS: I would never say that to a cop, even if I was Duke Nukem and had balls of steel.
...yeah, no, I was right about "role" gamers.

"I smoke pot. If this bothers anyone, I suggest you look around at the world in which we live and shut your mouth."--Bill Hicks
"I never knew there was another option other than to question everything"--Noam Chomsky

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bluescat48
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Message 22 of 34 (507639)
05-06-2009 10:48 PM
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05-06-2009 6:27 PM


onifre writes:
Then 90% of politicians hate cops.
Could be, why should they like cops any more than they like the rest of us?

There is no better love between 2 people than mutual respect for each other WT Young, 2002
Who gave anyone the authority to call me an authority on anything. WT Young, 1969
Since Evolution is only ~90% correct it should be thrown out and replaced by Creation which has even a lower % of correctness. W T Young, 2008

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onifre
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Message 23 of 34 (507698)
05-07-2009 1:01 PM
Reply to: Message 22 by bluescat48
05-06-2009 10:48 PM


Hi Bluecat,
Could be, why should they like cops any more than they like the rest of us?
That has the makings of a good conspiracy theory.
- Oni

"I smoke pot. If this bothers anyone, I suggest you look around at the world in which we live and shut your mouth."--Bill Hicks
"I never knew there was another option other than to question everything"--Noam Chomsky

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Artemis Entreri 
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Message 24 of 34 (507762)
05-07-2009 9:09 PM
Reply to: Message 18 by Artemis Entreri
05-06-2009 2:20 PM


its thier job to find you, con you into incriminating yourself, and then help prosecute you.
any legitimate evidence that they do not suck? or am i the only one who must provide evidence?
It is my experience that people who really really don't like cops regularly do things they're not suppose to be doing.
sounds like something a cop would say.
Edited by Artemis Entreri, : No reason given.

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Artemis Entreri 
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Message 25 of 34 (507763)
05-07-2009 9:12 PM
Reply to: Message 21 by onifre
05-06-2009 6:38 PM


a scientist calling a gamer out for being a nerd, that is too funny

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onifre
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Message 26 of 34 (507765)
05-07-2009 9:35 PM
Reply to: Message 25 by Artemis Entreri
05-07-2009 9:12 PM


a scientist calling a gamer out for being a nerd, that is too funny
Not that being a scientist isn't a great profession, but I'm not a scientist.
I'm a stand up comic. I tell jokes, drink every night and try to get laid with equally drunk women. I'm sure scientist do this too, to some extent, but I'm better at it.
Btw, it was "role" gamer, not gamer, as you put it. Let's get it straight, we're talking about make believe worlds and shit like that, right?

"I smoke pot. If this bothers anyone, I suggest you look around at the world in which we live and shut your mouth."--Bill Hicks
"I never knew there was another option other than to question everything"--Noam Chomsky

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Michamus
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Message 27 of 34 (507805)
05-08-2009 8:22 AM
Reply to: Message 11 by onifre
04-22-2009 6:32 PM


Was that you on the video? I was literally rolling on the floor on that one. Everyone here in the MWR was laughing too. You have some serious talent.

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onifre
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Message 28 of 34 (507848)
05-08-2009 1:09 PM
Reply to: Message 27 by Michamus
05-08-2009 8:22 AM


Was that you on the video? I was literally rolling on the floor on that one. Everyone here in the MWR was laughing too. You have some serious talent.
Yes that's me. Thanks for the compliments, I really appreciate it. I'm glad I could make you guys laugh over there.
Be safe,
- Oni

"I smoke pot. If this bothers anyone, I suggest you look around at the world in which we live and shut your mouth."--Bill Hicks
"I never knew there was another option other than to question everything"--Noam Chomsky

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bluescat48
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Message 29 of 34 (507860)
05-08-2009 2:30 PM
Reply to: Message 24 by Artemis Entreri
05-07-2009 9:09 PM


its thier job to find you, con you into incriminating yourself, and then help prosecute you.
Oh really? A friend of mine decided one night to gun it through town, a cop spotted him and turned on the light & siren. My friend then sped up, failed to stop at a red light which had a sign posted "no turn on red," sped around the corner at gunned it to about 80mph running another red light and finally stopped when the car stalled. The cop was going to write him up for reckless driving only, until my friend opened up his big mouth and said something to the cop. That did it now he was written up for all the infractions. So where is the con ?

There is no better love between 2 people than mutual respect for each other WT Young, 2002
Who gave anyone the authority to call me an authority on anything. WT Young, 1969
Since Evolution is only ~90% correct it should be thrown out and replaced by Creation which has even a lower % of correctness. W T Young, 2008

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Jon
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Message 30 of 34 (508723)
05-15-2009 7:57 PM


A search warrant should be required for any and all searches. Search warrants should be almost impossible to obtain, with a 2-day wait minimum required.
Wouldn't the world be so wonderful, then? It is only too bad no one pays attention to me.
Jon

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