YEC without the bible, possible?

In order to accept the young earth idea you have to reject virtually all of science.But many creationists or YECs whom I have debated on these forums insist that they are not anti-science!YEC without Bible? Here's the test: do scientists or informed laymen in non-Christian countries come up with a young earth scenario from the scientific evidence? The answer is a universal no!Young earth is strictly a religious belief, and it requires that one ignores reality.But I have found that YECs are particularly adept at that. They manage to ignore, self-delude, misrepresent, or in some other way dispose of any pesky facts that intrude upon their religious beliefs.And unfortunately, some take this anti-science belief to an extreme:

I’m saying that evolution is not science and is of Satan. Source

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Religious belief does not constitute scientific evidence, nor does it convey scientific knowledge.

So you are going to disparage the scientific method as "insufficient" and come up with evidence for YEC without the bible.You can have...

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...magic, superstition, wishful thinking, old wives tales, folklore, what the stars foretell and what the neighbors think, faked moon landings, omens, public opinion, astromancy, spells, Ouija boards, anecdotes, a flat or hollow earth, Da Vinci codes, tarot cards, sorcery, seances, sore bunions, black cats, divine revelation, crop circles, table tipping, witch doctors, crystals and crystal balls, numerology, divination, geocentrism, faith healing, miracles, palm reading, the unguessable verdict of history, televangelists, magic tea leaves, new age mumbo-jumbo, hoodoo, voodoo and all that other weird stuff.

Without the scientific method that's the kind of nonsense you're left with.Thanks. I'll stick with the scientific method.

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Religious belief does not constitute scientific evidence, nor does it convey scientific knowledge.

It would seem that the details of one's religious belief would be off topic.The topic could probably be summarized as "does scientific evidence point to a young earth--without reference to the bible."The answer can only be "No." Belief in a young earth is a religious belief not supported by scientific evidence, in spite of the distortions, misrepresentations, and outright lies that creation "scientists" come up with to try and force science to support their belief.We have the 101 evidences for a young earth on another thread. Those "evidences" are not faring too well.To stay on topic, perhaps you could address how one would come to believe in a young earth without the bible or other religious belief? Information concerning scientists in non-Christian countries, and of other faiths, who suddenly--without converting to Christianity--come up with evidence for a young earth would be appropriate to present here.Any such evidence that you know of?

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Religious belief does not constitute scientific evidence, nor does it convey scientific knowledge.

To return to the topic:Given the number of posts referencing the bible, is there any doubt that the YEC belief comes from that source?

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Religious belief does not constitute scientific evidence, nor does it convey scientific knowledge.

The "evidence" for YEC has been examined by science and has been found to be nonexistent.Only those with an a priori belief in a particular interpretation of the bible support YEC. Without that a priori belief, nobody comes up with the young earth idea based on scientific evidence.

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Religious belief does not constitute scientific evidence, nor does it convey scientific knowledge.