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Author Topic:   Could life evolve in the vacuum of outer space?
howdoideletethis
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Message 1 of 29 (512402)
06-17-2009 12:23 PM


I'll give you a little background as to why I'm curious about this. I'm more or less a UFO fanatic, always reading and researching things related to alien technology and life. I came across this video that was taken aboard one of the shuttles that was orbiting our planet and they had recorded hundreds of unknowns zooming and moving around outside the ship. The objects obviously aren't satellites or anything of that nature, there are far too many, moving in whatever direction they please. Now, most people's first thought would be (other than skepticism) alien spacecraft!
Then I started thinking, what if these particular objects aren't spacecraft at all, not any kind of technology whatsoever, but actually some type of life form that had either evolved while in outer space or had evolved in one of our outer layers of atmosphere.
Now I know what most people would think, "There's no gravity, there's no oxygen, there's too much radiation," but we have found life evolving in the deepest reaches of the ocean where there is no light, no oxygen, and incredible temperatures and pressures and when I think about that it also makes me wonder, is there no limit to evolution?
Okay, so the question is: Assuming evolution is real, that things adapt to their situation, and assuming the universe is an unimaginable age, could life evolve in the vacuum of space, created from and surviving on space radiation and what little matter is out there? Could they be some type of being made of energy?
Here is the video (which, with or without seeing this video, it's still a compelling question): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X-RPWhigpQg&feature=playe...
I just wanted to put this question out there and see what kind of ideas and thoughts I would receive, thanks to anyone who replies!
Edited by Adminnemooseus, : More blank lines.

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howdoideletethis
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Message 6 of 29 (512418)
06-17-2009 4:59 PM
Reply to: Message 4 by onifre
06-17-2009 4:39 PM


But as you can clearly see in the film the objects aren't behaving under natural gravitational laws. Either they should look still, or they should be moving in an almost linear motion. And in either instance they shouldn't accelerate unless it's towards the earth and they most definitely should not have such dramatic curves or angles (unless of course ALL of those curving and accelerating objects were struck by some outside force). But like I said, the video isn't important, just food for thought.
Okay, so "life" might not evolve in space, and when I say life I'm talking about the general definition of plants and animals, not anything too specific. But would some other type of being, possibly energetic, form in space? Definite energy with a conscience? Possibly using more that just 4 dimensions like "life" here on our earth, which would help to explain why the energy doesn't appear as simply light?
To be honest I'm not trying to prove anything, I really just enjoy listening to everyone's thoughts. So try not to be too critical guys, I enjoy having only one anus.
I've got to work, I'll be on late tonight or tomorrow.
Edited by TristanMC, : No reason given.

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howdoideletethis
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Message 15 of 29 (512429)
06-17-2009 9:35 PM


Objects accelerate and change paths in the first 20 seconds, among other areas of the video.
Hm, energy wasn't really what I meant, but at the moment I can't really think of what I did mean. Maybe I was curious to think if something could originate from the solar and cosmic radiation, building from all of those protons, alpha particles, electrons and all of the quarks and leptons that go with it? We know these tiny things exist and there very well could be small particles we've yet to encounter. But then according to life as we know it these would arrange themselves to be just like normal life and thus wouldn't be able to exist in the vacuum of space. Hm..
How about this, someone else use their imagination and think of the most ideal way something might evolve in the vacuum of space. (And no, being on a meteor doesn't count)
And if I had 44 anuses I wouldn't be able to maneuver like the ship because I'd be exposed in space and I would die. So ha. =P

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howdoideletethis
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Message 19 of 29 (512500)
06-18-2009 2:47 PM
Reply to: Message 18 by lyx2no
06-18-2009 1:15 PM


Re: Bad Attitude Control
Yes, I do have better things to do, seeing as this is only my fourth post, unlike you're 700+ (no telling how many are useless replies).
And yes RAZD, It could be because of the point of view, but apparently you didn't watch the video. Things wouldn't appear to instantly reverse directions on the surface of the earth. It might curve, or hook, but not completely reverse and travel backwards on it's path.
And if you really want to focus on my anus, RAZD, you can send me a message. I get the feeling these forums are more for degradation than discussion.
That is a good way to think of it onifre. And if it took billions of years to create something as intricate as the human species, think of the potential of billions of more years of universal existence. Of course, the sun will slowly die and eat everything in its way, but I'm sure human kind will find a way to preserve life what with technology growing at an exponential rate. Those first single celled guys probably thought "Whoa, we're the only things existing thing here. This is pretty impressive. Things couldn't possibly get any more crazy than this!" And now look.
But pardon me, single cells didn't know the English language then and probably weren't even aware they were the first and they probably didn't have much of a thought process. Sorry for that completely useless analogy, I'm just a moron.

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howdoideletethis
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Message 21 of 29 (512516)
06-18-2009 5:18 PM
Reply to: Message 20 by Perdition
06-18-2009 5:11 PM


Re: Bad Attitude Control
But those are over enormous distances and over a large amount of time, this takes place over less than a second.

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howdoideletethis
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Message 23 of 29 (512519)
06-18-2009 5:34 PM
Reply to: Message 22 by onifre
06-18-2009 5:24 PM


Re: Bad Attitude Control
Alright well I suppose I have quenched this curiosity. Thanks for the input! Except for lyx2no, he gets no thanks.

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