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Perdition
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Message 40 of 67 (514957)
07-14-2009 12:46 PM
Reply to: Message 33 by Peg
07-13-2009 9:55 PM


we can live our own life and do what we want and live how we want...we may live a short life and die young, or we may live to be 60, 70 or 80 years if we are lucky, but we are going to die.
or God says :
live how I want you to live, do what i want you to do and you and ill allow you to do it forever without the toil and pain you currently experience in this life. (Deut 30:19)
Shades pf Pascall here. Buddhists say the same thing, but what you have to do is different. What if they're right and you're wrong and now you're stuck in a cycle of pain and suffering?
If you compare the life we have today with the life that God promises in the bible, there is no comparison. Sure, we have to wait for it, and we may even die before it comes....but what does it matter if we are going to die anyway.?
God promises a life you may not recieve, but the promise is so great that you have to follow it? This is the ultimate rat experiment: "We'll promise them something so amazingly good that they'll do anything to get it, but never actually give it to them so we can control what they do."
Jesus said it would come before the people in front of him were dead. It hasn't come yet, why are you still holding your breath, it's beginning to look like it's not coming.
Life was supposed to continue indefinitely for Adam and Eve but they chose death pain and suffering. Well I didnt choose that, it was imposed upon me and if there is a way out, then i want it.
Exactly, you didn't choose it, you had no say in it what so ever, yet you suffer the punishment. That sounds like a very benevolent, loving father figure who in no way wants you to suffer or die, doesn't it?
So while i'll have to wait, im willing to do that because it will be worth the wait.
No, you've been told it will be worth the wait, and you hope it will be worth the wait, but there is no proff, and the wait may be forever. Sounds great to me.
"If you do as I say, you'll get a brand new shiny car that runs forever, doesn't pollute, doesn't need gas or oil, never needs a tune-up, and can fly or drive underwater. It always stays at a comfortable temperature and the safety features are so good you'll never get hurt or hurt anyone else. All you have to do is do exactly what I say for the rest of your life.
Disclaimer, you may not actually recieve this prize. All risks are the sole responsibility of the participant."

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Perdition
Member (Idle past 3260 days)
Posts: 1593
From: Wisconsin
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Message 44 of 67 (515012)
07-14-2009 6:58 PM
Reply to: Message 41 by Woodsy
07-14-2009 4:35 PM


This discussion reminds me of the "Kissing Hank's Ass" screed.
I'm a big fan of both the written and video forms of that story. I wouldn't call it a screed. Thank you for putting up with some of the best satire on religion I know of. You honor me.

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