Healthcare In The USA

Can anyone explain to me the situation with the current healthcare bill in the US?My source of US news is all too often "The Daily Show" with Jon Stewart (and even he doesn't pretend that this is news as such ). My last viewing portrayed a series of irate and incredibly aggressive confrontations in local town halls with anti-healthcare members of the public denouncing Obama as a communist Arab selling America to the devil.So what is going on? Who is pro? Who is against? What are the facts? What are the fictions?As a confused foreigner I want to know the "truth"........Please enlighten me.

Cheers for your "kick start" post on US healthcare Stile.And can I just say as an aside that you have been rockin in the various evidence/atheist/faith/delusion threads recently. My guess is that you have been thinking through your position in these areas quite avidly lately. [/end butt licking]Anyway back to healthcare.........

Is the bill going to go through?Or has the hysteria and propaganda effectively worked?

Hello to you too. Despite starting this topic I intend to take a bit of a backseat and just see what others have to say on the matter.However given that your first post here was a reply to my OP I felt compelled to at least say "Hi" back. Welcome!! I am going to see what others have to say first. But knowing myself I am sure I will be unable to resist chucking in my own twopenneth and asking a load of questions at some point.Stay Happy

Definitely less than I did. I certainly don't have an equally supported position in terms of references. But I have just looked at this thread and will think on it some more before getting back properly.One question - What did other industries want? The insurance industry for example? Are all big business winners in this or are some industries pissed off at this?

Err Dronester I think you'll find that I have already agreed to that far more than you are giving me credit for. See below: Message 148We are all card carrying members of the aluminium hat brigade here!! The only question is how big are our respective hats?Anyway see my next post to Oni for complete ass open surrender. Feel free to join the queue to take your pleasure once Oni has finished with me.Edited by Straggler, : No reason given.

Wotcha Oni
I am going to concede, surrender even, this one without a fight. I did start writing about dispirate interests blah blah blah....... But ultimately I have nothing with which to dispute the references you have presented.I remain of the opinion that some of you more extreme suggestions (that the civil rights movement was orchestrated by big business, that PR presidents are identified, groomed and maneuvred years in advance of elections etc. etc.) are worthy of at least a thin covering of baking foil around the ears. Even if not the full on aluminium saucepan headgear that I previously asserted.Can I defend these opinions? Well a small part of me is tempted to take on the intellectual challenge of pitting myself against your obviously superior knowledge in these areas. I have enough humility to have little doubt you will ravage such arguments. But equally I have enough arrogance that I reckon I could at least make you fight hard for your victory.However a larger part of me is intent on some respite from heavy debate and conflict. I would much rather currently spend some time blathering pointlessly about beer, cricket (which started again today - I am sure you will be excited to hear) and other things which nobody here gives a monkeys testicle about. Or even reads (some of my more inebriated posts I certainly hope not anyway).So if you want to go for the kill I am standing here bent over with my pants around my ankles........All I ask is that you be gentle with me. All part of the fun. Apparently If you can't get anyone else to take you on with regard to this stuff and are determined to have a full on victory over somebody give me a week or two and I'll reconsider. Like I say I am arrogant enough to think I could make you work for it. Just more interested in following the cricket and less time consuming EvC stuff at the mo.Where is Keresu these days BTW? I miss his shaggy blonde locks.Edited by Straggler, : No reason given.Edited by Straggler, : No reason given.

Overall tax burden does not necessarily reflect spending on healthcare specifically. I did a search on google for - healthcare costs US NHS GDP. And got the following as the first entry. I am not claiming it is as independent source but are the figures accurate?It was my understanding (which is of course why I did that search) that US healthcare cost more than ours in one sense or another. Account SuspendedSo are these figures accurate and if they are what do they tell us about the relative costs of the two systems?